Nexus proposal to the Lakelands

[raven41]

I laughed out loud ... Because I really wasnt expecting to see that response ..
That was funny ..I personally like what Nexus is doing aswell..

[bf649ztp]

Perhaps just perhaps the KA just isn't as good an idea as it seemed. Every guild always under pressure to do what a certain few insist they do. All of Atys under one huge alliance with no room for OP battles, or anyone to dare speak out against what will probably end up just stagnating all of Atys and turning our new OP content sour.

Attack who you want to attack, help who you want to. Just don't cower in a corner not going out and trying something, these OP's were meant to be contested, that's the point. we proved we can have a good time in a battle without constant flame chat.

(IC or OOC, probably both, probably don't matter all that much either, but i speak for myself and myself ONLY!)

Kodel.

[varelse]

Because I am Pero.

It is good to know your true mettle, Pero, at last, and to finally understand where your loyalties lie, Aeden Artisans.

[lexi44]

Before reading this post, please be sure that it is not written with condescension, we are not trying to manage the Lakelands, like title said it's just a proposal. Every involved guild will agree or not, and we'll work on that, together.

We wanted the Lakelands outpost to go back to the trykers, it's done. Now, as we promised, the op gifts will take the same way.

This is our proposal :

All Tryker guild will now have an access to the Whirling Stronghold op mats

* for guilds already owning an outpost : trade with the 1:1 rate (xpc, mats, flowers) whatever the quality
* for op-less guilds : gifts


Nexus own now 2 outposts, that's too much and not fair, so :

* we would like the Aeden Artisans to accept the Fount outpost, even if it will be "only" a one step upgrade, Pero's "days after days growing guild" could appreciate it.
* just a counterpart on this ownership change, we'd like AA to give the Winds of Muse outpost to the op-less Tryker guilds. (I'll try to discuss and develop it with Pero when i'll be able to catch him ingame /timezone problems). And yes, Aeden Artisans were against Nexus on the Loria op war, but they are an important element of the Tryker Lakelands, and it cant be built without them.


This is only the first step of the "how we see the Lakelands" : United
As soon as we'll extract enough mats from the outpost, we'll start what is written here. (already available for the fount op still our)

Regardless of all the junk others would like to "read" into this, I think what you've proposed here is a wonderful thing to happen for the Lakelands. Plus the fact that you have offered your "old" OP to a guild that was against you in taking the OP...all I can say is...

/bow
/respect

Well done.

[cygnus]

Very nice way of behaving o'Noble Nexus and brave Aeden Artisans ...
Now let me ask you this question cause it's someting that bothers me:
Question to Nexus Guild -What is your stance toward all karavan guilds - either united under alliance named KA and those outside? I wonder this cause would like to ask politely if we any of this guilds should be worring about being attacked by you and your kamist and neutrals allies ?

Question to Aeden Artisans Guild How come you o'noble members of KA can accept such great gift like higher level Outpost from homins that attacked your ally and killed many faithful servants of Jena ?

I would like to take this opportunity to outline Evolution's stance regarding the KA and other Karavan guilds.

We are not warmongerers. We have no intention of declaring on anybody else's OP as I am sure the other Tryker guilds wont either. This was always about Tryker OP's for Tryker guilds. We remain commited to the Karavan cause but we do not view any Kami as a natural enemy who should be killed in the blink of an eye. We seek to co-exist in peace but if you try to hurt us we will strike back with a vengence, regardless of your faith.

As has been stated in other threads the bad rep that the KA managed to build was partly their/your own doing. A secret pact that only publically showed an aggresive stance towards any non KA member OP's. This was further enforced through various posts by the more outspoken members of KA. It was because of this that Evolution decided a stand must be made as we could only foresee each and every OP on Atys slowly falling into KA hands. We had no evidence to suggest anything different only acts of aggresion that further gave weight to KA's domination agenda.

Evolution are not extremists, we never have been and we never want to be. KA is perceived as extremely extremist, whether they are or not, that perception is valid based on previous behaviour.

Alliances should be about defence not attack. Alliances should be about sharing not greed. Alliances should be about freedom not oppresion.

[yaten]

Because I am Pero.

It is good to know your true mettle, Pero, at last, and to finally understand where your loyalties lie, Aeden Artisans.

Well, that's Pero for you ... all attempts to deflate his ego seem to have failed to date. I think that such a seemingly impossible quest is a worthy goal, however...

[evalisa]

OOC

It is good to know your true mettle, Pero, at last, and to finally understand where your loyalties lie, Aeden Artisans.

I dont know if that was an insult or a complement, but incase it was ment as an insult..

Of course his loyalties are to his guild, i would dare a guild leader to say they are not loyal to there own guild.

as for those insulting his reply "Because i am pero" if you get to know him ingame you will realise that he actualy has a very amusign and fun way of RP, dont need to atatck him ooc about it targoz.
Also, accepting this outpost is the correct decision tacticaly as well.

Well done nexus for starting the battle of the races as well as faction, may this be the start of increased political management and actions, and good of you to hand over your outpost, although i think there was political motive for you giving it to AA, it was a smart move

[aude03]

Question to Nexus Guild -What is your stance toward all karavan guilds - either united under alliance named KA and those outside? I wonder this cause would like to ask politely if we any of this guilds should be worring about being attacked by you and your kamist and neutrals allies ?

Dear Ciridemarr,

You should reread the reasons we declared OV outpost.
* Omega V declared war to Nexus.
* We wanted the Tryker op mats to stay in the Lakelands, for the lakelanders.

The alliance we made was called by differents names, but all of them had the same meaning, my favorite was "Lakelands Freedom Force". It has never (and will never) been called "Kill all the KA's force" or "Let's take all the KA'S op Force".

Why should we do to others the things we fought against ?

[putterix]

Very nice way of behaving o'Noble Nexus and brave Aeden Artisans ...
Now let me ask you this question cause it's someting that bothers me:
Question to Nexus Guild -What is your stance toward all karavan guilds - either united under alliance named KA and those outside? I wonder this cause would like to ask politely if we any of this guilds should be worring about being attacked by you and your kamist and neutrals allies ?

There was no alliance that attacked Whirling Stronghold, it was the democracy
that attacked, and is a show that u can be strong without an alliance.

And this is a very honourable proposal

[philu]

I think this is a very good and generous move by Nexus. It could benefit all Tryker guilds. Don't let any KA 'spin' put you off this noble course.

I wonder this cause would like to ask politely if we any of this guilds should be worring about being attacked by you and your kamist and neutrals allies ?

AFAIK to date the only attacks not aimed at retaking an OP have been made by KA members. The only attacks made outside native lands have been made by Matis guilds. So who should be the ones worrying?