The Yrkanis Shielding Act

[weeman07]

@Lath: If you were engaged in a duel there is no way that anyone can attack a duel participant besides the 2 folks dueling. You get a message that say something like "you are trying to interfere in a fight that does not involve you"

Not for a change you dont know what your talking about.

[lathan]

Yeah.. it's completely possible to attack someone in a duel. There were plenty of people at the stables who saw it happen.

Or maybe my new daggers were really so uber that I could take down fas in three swings. Let's put it to a vote, see who thinks that's likely!

[carrie]

Yeah.. it's completely possible to attack someone in a duel. There were plenty of people at the stables who saw it happen.

Or maybe my new daggers were really so uber that I could take down fas in three swings. Let's put it to a vote, see who thinks that's likely!

I'm very certain it must be the uber daggers....and I'd like you to make some for me now, please!

[scarazi]

No, NOT anyone gets "ganked" people who have explicitly said that they like to PvP by clicking a stupid button.

Furthermore, Nevrax has handily made it a 30 second event to say 'I don't want to PvP right now' If you don't want to be attacked in Yrkanis, remove your PvP flag. Seems pretty simple. It will only take you 2 minutes to turn it off.

How on earth can this be harassment when someone choose to turn their PvP tag on?

Edit: We could just kill people and not give a reason, but again, after attempting to make it fit the game, have a little more meaning, etc. Yet another person says oh, you don't know how to RP shut up.

And pray tell, how is this different than Spires? It is not. You will have to PvP tag to participate and fall under the currently existing PvP rules.

Labelling someone "head ganker" on the forums, that sounds like harrasment to me, continued harrassment on one player ingame or on forums =harrasment, i`ve seen it such harrasment pointed toward fasinus ingame and on forums by said party and others. thats why i reported.

"how does this differ from spires?"
DT sets a rule cause he doesn`t want said player in Yrk (he has stated this). This differs from spires cause the Kami can`t contest this, they have no way to aquire the rights of the town, therefore you have no right to label them as your own, ganking anyone who wants to go there to craft and complaining about people healing them when ganking attempts have failed.

"if you dont want to be attacked in Yrk, remove your PvP flag"
why should they? they have just as much right to wear it as you, why must they remove, why not you?

"We could just kill people and not give a reason"
thats excatly what you did, the stupid story of the dead girl was added later to the initial Yrk ganking act, as i said as a disclaimer to freely gank said player and other Kami in Yrkanis.

[marct]

This game has NO ganking in it. If you wish to PvP turn ON your flag if not turn it OFF, it is as simple as that.

Agreed, last post here for me.

And, to Lath and Fasinus, my mistake. I have gotten that message before when trying to involve myself. Go figure that it would be different in different cases.


Forums PvP sucks!

The only thing that has changed about the Ryzom community is that the forum PvP is nasty and wicked. I wish I had the nice debates of the January-March 2005 timeframe back.

[d29565]

The only thing that has changed about the Ryzom community is that the forum PvP is nasty and wicked. I wish I had the nice debates of the January-March 2005 timeframe back.

In game community has become just as bad.

[vguerin]

Labelling someone "head ganker" on the forums, that sounds like harrasment to me, continued harrassment on one player ingame or on forums =harrasment, i`ve seen it such harrasment pointed toward fasinus ingame and on forums by said party and others. thats why i reported.

"how does this differ from spires?"
DT sets a rule cause he doesn`t want said player in Yrk (he has stated this). This differs from spires cause the Kami can`t contest this, they have no way to aquire the rights of the town, therefore you have no right to label them as your own, ganking anyone who wants to go there to craft and complaining about people healing them when ganking attempts have failed.

"if you dont want to be attacked in Yrk, remove your PvP flag"
why should they? they have just as much right to wear it as you, why must they remove, why not you?

"We could just kill people and not give a reason"
thats excatly what you did, the stupid story of the dead girl was added later to the initial Yrk ganking act, as i said as a disclaimer to freely gank said player and other Kami in Yrkanis.

OOC: Again, you don't see what he is doing and have no clue why he EARNED that label and deserves it. He surely don't treat allies/friends that way so you miss our point.

As much as DT would love to think Jena has blessed him with the power to make an edict of the scope of the "Yrkanis Shielding Act', he was but a spokesman for the masses who saw this a big enough problem to collectively try and stop.

We want everyone in all our cities, but we don't want known aggressors coming in flagged. It's simple really...

Since your not playing (gone) and weren't flagged when you were playing our defensive measures do not effect you. It was not difficult for the Karavaneers to come to a consensus on this matter, and the main reason behind it was the conduct of Fasinus... We don't need to hide that matter, it's public knowledge to any Karavaneer wearing tags in town for peaceful matters. Nobody goes to town to fight, but Karavaneers will now go to town to defend against any violators of our policy...
/OOC

[cloudy97]

(IC)

"The parchment is torn down and lies shreaded to pieces on the dirty ground before the stable. A new note is nailed to the bulletin board in it's stead."

Honoured guilds of Yrkanis,

Unless I see the King's signature on this so called "Shielding Act" I am most convinced it is illegal and therefore I removed it to protect you from yourselves. Yrkanis has never been in such bad shape before. We don't want to promote riots in His Majesty's town, do we?

*signed*
~ Ulani Viccio ~

[scarazi]

you cannot dictate where someone can PvP or not, its not your place.

You are trying to enforce a ruling that would alter other people`s way that they play the game, just cause you don`t like it (how many times have you said told people "its the way i play the game, i`m not changing").

Yrkanis is a city unfought over until spires arrive, defend it if you see fit when the time comes, there is no need to gank crafters in the mean time.

If you wanna kill Kami then go ahead, tag up, and kill them everywhere, the game mechanics are there. But this is obviously personnal to you, sounds like Fasinus faught and beat you a few too many times so you call for backup and a new ruling for all Karavaneers to abide by to kill all Kami tagged players in a town where both you and Fasinus call home. Its a big place, theres enough room for both of you (*measures DT`s head just to doublecheck*)

and yep gone, WoW doomhammer server name Scarazi if anyone wants to hook up. Gone cause of people like you DT ruining the community and ambience of Atys

our policy

whos?

[blaah]

"if you dont want to be attacked in Yrk, remove your PvP flag"
why should they? they have just as much right to wear it as you, why must they remove, why not you?

if you have not figured it out already.... in PvP, stronger (not neccessary one player) makes rules... and because you can turn off PvP, you cant cry GM's about harassement while you get killed over and over again.

and remember if you have PvP flag ON, expect to be killed wherever you are whatever you doing. simple as that. other side only need "because i can" reason.