Neutral TP's just got Fixed ?

[petej]

Seems all the TP's that used to work for Neutrals (of either Faction) now need to also have +Fame with that Faction , sounds good but Neutrals didnt/dont have access to either TP so are now excluded from some regions even before Spires take effect :/

Example - Oflovaks Oasis and Frahar Towers were both Kami only for Neutral TP's , they now both need +Kami Fame so Neutrals with less than 0 Kami dont have access (the Kara TP's there are both "Faction only")

[dhuberma]

I'm a true neutral and wish to remain so in perpetuity. I believe I have the default starting faction for Zorai, +20 Kami, -20 Karavan. If I do missions for the Karavan, will I eventually reach 0 Kami, 0 Karavan? Or do the two factions increase/decrease disproportionately as a result of missions?

Thanks and best regards,

[petej]

It should balance but its tricky around 0 , you can be + 0 or - 0 because of the rounding and youl find your Spawns/TP access switching which might be annoying

Oh and ofc the Temple sites may or maynot be agro...

[thlau]

Example - Oflovaks Oasis and Frahar Towers were both Kami only for Neutral TP's , they now both need +Kami Fame so Neutrals with less than 0 Kami dont have access (the Kara TP's there are both "Faction only")

Yes, you are right. I'm sure that I used the TP to the Kami altar in Oflovaks Oasis about three times before and during the Outpost fight in Flaming Forest on the night from saturday to sunday. But now (monday, 14:35 GMT) I'm not allowed to make a new teleporter pact at the Kami altar. (Sorry I didn't had the time to open a support ticket at that time, because I checked it, while at work )

[oldmess]

Seems all the TP's that used to work for Neutrals (of either Faction) now need to also have +Fame with that Faction , sounds good but Neutrals didnt/dont have access to either TP so are now excluded from some regions even before Spires take effect :/

Anyone know how widespread this is? I've got a few newer players that I've been teaching where to dig in Kami Circle, but if they're cut off from FG completely by this, then they'll have to run every time they want to get there.

@Nevrax - can someone confirm that this is a bug or it's intentional? If it's a bug, please fix ASAP. This whole TP situation is frustrating enough as it is.

If it's intentional... well let's just say I'm going to reserve my outrage for now, but it's pretty unacceptable simply on the grounds that it was not annouced.

[dhuberma]

Why is it unacceptable for neutral to no longer be able to purchase TP pacts from faction altars? From a story POV, it is easily argued that the Kami and/or Karavan would only sell to those with whom they enjoy a +0 or better relationship.

I'm a true neutral, and I enjoy using the TPs. But if the Karavan and Kami are "improving security" and will no longer allow me to make pacts with their altars if my faction standing is below 0, that makes perfect sense to me.

[kostika]

Why is it unacceptable for neutral to no longer be able to purchase TP pacts from faction altars?

Its wrong basically because its "not as advertised". If they are going to put in special requirements they shouldn't say that there aren't. Neutral TPs aren't supposed to be based on fame. So if they are, then it's not what we were told originally.

Of course this could jsut be a problem with the Of's Kara/Kami TPs.

[Lukati]

Why is it unacceptable for neutral to no longer be able to purchase TP pacts from faction altars? From a story POV, it is easily argued that the Kami and/or Karavan would only sell to those with whom they enjoy a +0 or better relationship.

I'm a true neutral, and I enjoy using the TPs. But if the Karavan and Kami are "improving security" and will no longer allow me to make pacts with their altars if my faction standing is below 0, that makes perfect sense to me.

That makes sense to me as well, but what doesn't make sense, and might point to the fact that it's an error (and I hope it is) is why this change would be brought in without letting a single player know? Now that I've gotten used to the tp access that I have, I'd really have to wonder why they'd even tease us with the access we have now, rather than give us this tp access from the very start.

[dhuberma]

Its wrong basically because its "not as advertised".

Erm, isn't the primary feature of the game advertised as "ever-changing, evolving world"? Things change in Atys, they don't stay static. That's what y'all have taught me in my time here

[gavin205]

I had a similar problem at Dyron Kami, and a Guildmate with negative Kara is reporting similar problems. As a player, it's darn frustrating, as a pencil and paper GM, i'd do it, lol.

Yudachi