Some thoughts about XP cristals...

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Re: Some thoughts about XP cristals...

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901941 wrote:. I think he just has no idea what to sell them for. But definitely will give you girls a shout. I have no intentions to keep paying such a high price for crystals, especially ones that I can’t even use. If a deal can be made with anyone that is willing I’m game.

I also have no idea of the price players are willing to pay / sell for crystals, nor who is trading what and at what rate. An interestingpost mentioned the idea of adding crystals merchants, that's nice :) but if there are rarely affordable mats like resin, fiber or seeds, I doubt one would be able to buy lots of them.
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Re: Some thoughts about XP cristals...

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When I frst got cristals, I thought they were awesome. They double my XP rate and I had a lot of em from the guild I joined.

Although once I hit 50, not only was leveling getting progressively slower, the cristals now had no effects, and the XP gain was cut in half (or back to normal, rather). Those combined made leveling feel a lot slower to me, and that is one thing I don't like about the cristals. I got so used to the great XP I was constantly getting, that once I got out of the cristal range, I wasn't ready for the adjustment.

Although I am getting past that now, and realizing it isn't so bad. I still plan on using them for things like crafting, but I think I would end up feeling better about getting to a higher level in an area knowing I spent a lot of time getting there, and did it with no aid from cristals.

Although like I said, I 'think' I would feel better, but what do I know? My highest skill right now is at 55
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Re: Some thoughts about XP cristals...

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iphdrunk wrote:I also have no idea of the price players are willing to pay / sell for crystals, nor who is trading what and at what rate. An interestingpost mentioned the idea of adding crystals merchants, that's nice :) but if there are rarely affordable mats like resin, fiber or seeds, I doubt one would be able to buy lots of them.
I spent some time in the weeks after they started trying to set up deals and find sources of the crystals, and found it to be a big pain in the arse. I found that the time and cost (usually a lot of mats) to find the crystals is not even worth the trouble. if i spent the same time and resources on myself it was a wash..no real gain any way. so unless you get them free from your guild or a good friend or just some kind homin, they are just a distraction IMO

add: they also seem to be worse on the community than any PvP they have thrown at us
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Re: Some thoughts about XP cristals...

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bgraz wrote:I spent some time in the weeks after they started trying to set up deals and find sources of the crystals, and found it to be a big pain in the arse. I found that the time and cost (usually a lot of mats) to find the crystals is not even worth the trouble. if i spent the same time and resources on myself it was a wash..no real gain any way. so unless you get them free from your guild or a good friend or just some kind homin, they are just a distraction IMO

add: they also seem to be worse on the community than any PvP they have thrown at us
Sounds like sour grapes... there are OP's and Elevation crystals out there for anyone wanting to make the leap... Is it a game handout... nope. Owning/Controlling an OP has it's risks and costs.

They are nice to have if you are not Master in many areas, but most of us made our levels with time, blood, sweat and tears... there were no crystals. Now we typically use the crystals for the side skills while we wait on XP caps and other area's to open. We give away our crystals to our allies, they support us back... Personally, I think selling them makes no sense...

Our alliance has crystals for those in need, it does not make the game more fun... merely makes the grind for us old timers less painful.
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Re: Some thoughts about XP cristals...

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vguerin wrote:Sounds like sour grapes... there are OP's and Elevation crystals out there for anyone wanting to make the leap... Is it a game handout... nope. Owning/Controlling an OP has it's risks and costs.

They are nice to have if you are not Master in many areas, but most of us made our levels with time, blood, sweat and tears... there were no crystals. Now we typically use the crystals for the side skills while we wait on XP caps and other area's to open. We give away our crystals to our allies, they support us back... Personally, I think selling them makes no sense...

Our alliance has crystals for those in need, it does not make the game more fun... merely makes the grind for us old timers less painful.
Na not sour grapes. was at first, but your right, I too have spent months working on skills and have still not mastered 1 yet. Like i said though, they just became a distraction to me, I felt i had to have them because they are avalable, but life continues without them.
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I'm so amused. When Nevrax does something that essentially makes the game harder, patch 1, they lose 80% of their player base.

When Nevrax introduced content with rewards, the people don't fight over it, rather than complain that the people that get the rewards aren't working as hard for their levels.

Perhaps its an ego trip? How hard you worked for your level doesn't matter. There is no honor in soloing your elemental to 250 rather than working in a group.
There is no honor in using or not using crystals.

It's like my grandfather complaining that he had to walk uphill both ways to school in the snow each day.

PS:
Just to let everyone know, I heard a rumor that Twilight Whisperers took down their drill, as an RP stance on not exploiting the resources of Atys. Someone please explain to them the absurdity of this. I wonder if anyone would defend the outpost with them, as they are helping neither their country nor their cause.
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swe999 wrote:PS:
Just to let everyone know, I heard a rumor that Twilight Whisperers took down their drill, as an RP stance on not exploiting the resources of Atys. Someone please explain to them the absurdity of this. I wonder if anyone would defend the outpost with them, as they are helping neither their country nor their cause.
very odd little rumour u heard there

some might have noticed our drill being MIA now and again, but soley due to testing purposes for the different drill types available, there would have been a construction in progress if no drill.

it's a bit low to suggest that we dont deserve help defending our op. If you have more personal issues for making this post then please contact me ingame or by PM. Or if you are planning on attacking us and trying to make it easier for yourself have the decency to post your guild name please..

[edit] just noticed the infinity symbol in your sig, a little slow after hours of drinking, question remains though what gives?
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Xp crystals, together with no pr or 250 zone tps for neutrals, no means of maintaining an op, gvg in pr 200 zones, the proposed spires etc, excludes players who don't wish to participate in pvp from significant game content.

I find it ironic and ill conceived that crafters are the sector of the community most affected/disaffected by recent changes as dedicated crafters represent a significant percentage of non pvp players.

Both groups could have been served. Means for non pvp players to own ops, neutral tps in pr, team healing in pr 200 zones where diggers leveling regularly teamed irrespective of guilds could have been retained, missions or other means for non pvp-ers to obtain xp crystals, etc could have been implemented and there would be no exclusion or disenfranchising of non pvp players. Nevrax, as I see it, chose instead to punish those of us who don't wish to participate in their pvp fervor.

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nonde wrote:Xp crystals, together with no pr or 250 zone tps for neutrals, no means of maintaining an op, gvg in pr 200 zones, the proposed spires etc, excludes players who don't wish to participate in pvp from significant game content.
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For everyone else's benefit though, Neutral player does not equal a player who would choose no PvP. I know plenty of non-Neutrals that prefer not to do PvP.

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Agreed Noin, when neutral means the same things to all then maybe it has a meaning... The many stages of neutral prevent pleasing everyone.
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