newbie Q,Pikes Vs.swords

[dogofwar]

Hi
Im still new to the game & was just wondering about weapons.
I have a very nice 2h sword That was crafted for me & ive tryed duel daggers & a pike at low level.
The sword seemed to do the must Damage,the daggers used a lot of stam.& i seem to take more damage per mob with daggers(maybe not as good a lev as sword thow)
I like to be a little differnt from the crowd & i think I look a little silly with a big sword on my little girl ( the sword is amost as big as me )
so all being equil level,what is the differance between a 2h sword & 2 h pike.
the reason i ask is i dont see many people useing pikes.

Ive been searching the forums (key word Pike/s),but i cant seem to find a good answer.

thanks for your time , yours truely Nixx

P.s. sorry for any bad spelling

p.p.s. I still love this game & plane on being with u a long time

[akicks]

[quote="dogofwar"][/quote]
There used to be no difference. That was a while ago now though.

Now: Pikes are slower and deal less damage than swords. However, they can pierce armor using "ignor armor" in your action, and they have a longer reach.

[dogofwar]

that dosent sound all that good,isnt the power att. skill that lets u do 2xdamage better,& what good is a longer reach for for

thanks

[rdfall]

Okay, first of all, pikes are 10% FASTER and do 20% less damage, when you skill higher in melee you can take both the increase damage and ignore armor actions, combining them into an über action, making pike (or lance if we're talking 1h) the strongest against tanks. A tank with an armor that blocks up to 60% of your damage on a sword would, with ignore armor, still get full damage of the damage on a pike.

A sword would be considered better against people in light armor (mages) because it does more damage, and it's special "bleeding" action.

It all depends on what you're planning to do, if you want to fight mages, go for sword, if you want to fight tanks, go for pike. In PvE it's more balanced. There are certain mobs weak against slashing (swords and axes), piercing (pikes) and smashing (mace's). i've only included 2h here, each of course have their own 1h version too.

[dogofwar]

[QUOTE=rdfall]Okay, first of all, pikes are 10% FASTER and do 20% less damageQUOTE]

10% faster ,20% less damage compaired to what,a sword ?

sorry im still confused

[killgore]

Yes as compared to swords.Each has it's place.Pikes are 20% faster hence they use more stamina. Daggers go up to 60 hpm they use the most stamina.Different MOBs have different resists to wep damage. On a kipuka my max dmg sword only does 221 damage out 1107 weras a pike with ignore armor would do it's full damage. Eventally being profficient with various weps is preferable. Just pick 1 at the beginning and lvl that and bring up others later.

[thurgond]

I like to be a little differnt from the crowd & i think I look a little silly with a big sword on my little girl ( the sword is amost as big as me )

If you want to be different use an axe or a mace.

If you're worried about the size of the weapon relative to your size, go sword and dagger or shield and axe/sword/mace/staff. To be nearly unique, staff and shield is the way to go.

The release notes about the differences in two handed weapons are at: http://www.ryzom.com/?page=releasenotes&id=125

[dogofwar]

that was usful info,thank you all for your help

[roninpvp]

People are trying to help but making mistakes.



The 2 handed melee weapons (sword, axe, pike and mace) now have differentiated characteristics, and all of them have a value. Here, the 2 handed sword is the reference for damages and speed comparison:


- Axe & mace: 20% more damage, 10% slower;

- Pike: 20% less damage, 10% faster, 20 in reach (3 others weapons have 10) that allows to lower received damages by 10%;

Since Pikes went down 20% at the same time axes went up 20% there is a huge difference in max damage on weapon. However remember now that pikes are 33hpm max and axes are 27hpm the actual damage per minute breakeven is slightly higher than pure max damage level.

[boinged]

Here's what I had to say on this a while back

Looking at the Damage over Time (DoT) for the weapons, the pike is down to 88% of previous values and the mace (and axe) is up to 108% so at first glance this weapon could become more favourable.

I think it's true to say that by slowing your target by 10% you are reducing their DoT to you by 10%. I.e. mace+slow = sword = pike, except the mace has more DoT, sword has bleed and pike ignore armour. This does seem to make maces redundant.

IIRC Bleed on a sword is 10% too per hit, but it stacks up to 100%. It also seems to last a lot longer than 5s which has it's uses when your prey decides to run off.

I started out with 2h sword, then switched to 2h pike, now I'm thinking of going to 2h axe. Each is a tool for a certain kind of job and has it's strengths and weaknesses. The only thing to worry about is what to hunt at high levels. Pikes can be used on anything although cuttlers (up to level 251) have no piercing resistance so you don't need to use ignore armour. I wouldn't want to become a Master Heavy Swordsman by killing them with their slash resistance I'm sure there is a high level creature for each weapon though.

At the end of the day it's best to choose a weapon you like the look of and know how to use.