Okee, weird new ban-from-forums policy pulled me back to make a few posts on the forums, also this one.
As it seems now people get banned for being a big pile of steaming sauerkraut. How is it possible regular but disappointed posters *can still post*? Posting Jyudas' ban was really a very silly move.
Which moves me to the second part. Disagreeing with Xavier and / or his actions will get you banned from the forums. You could ask Scarazi, but he got banned for disagreeing out loud. Can someone please explain in a nice way how we ever can give constructive critism if we have the +3 burning sword of Bah-Nin hovering over our heads?
I dont think this is so much about agreeing or disagreeing, about destructive or constructive critism. I think this is to silence the group that has a strong opinion and is not afraid to use the tools given to them to voice that opinion.
Maybe that could be a nice question. Can someone please point out where in the EULA it says that having an opinion that differs from Nevrax and it's empoyees is a reason to (patially) deny customers the services they subscribed to? Please?
To agree or to disagree.
To agree or to disagree.
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Evolution member.
Founder of the Yubo Liberation Front.
Suspected long lost sister of Neun.
Ryzom Wiki
MMO's: If I wanted to play with myself, I would grab a magazine and a box of tissues.
Re: To agree or to disagree.
I go away for 1 day and things seem to have gone to "whichever abode of condemned souls your religion supports"! 
Ok I have come to this 'debate' late, so apologies if I repeat anything.
I cannot believe that Nevrax would ban someone for expressing an opinion here. Jyudas has expressed his long and loud, I don't dispute that. Isn't that because he CARES about the way the game is going? I have seen plenty of constructive suggestions/opinions from Jyudas and others about PvP in general and EP2 in particular. What have I seen from pro-PvP people? The majority of posts in favour have been along the lines of "it's here, get over it" or "don't go into the PvP zone if you don't like it." Hardly 'constructive'.
If we're talking about personal attacks, isn't calling people trolls being personal/insulting?
How come some other people haven't been banned?
Example:
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19542
There was another example I was going to give that merited a ban IMHO, but that thread has now been deleted. Culprit hasn't been banned yet.
Smacks of double standards, or worse Nevrax targetting a particular group of dissenters because Nevrax don't like criticism of their game.
Next you'll be banning anyone with a skull avatar!
*looks at avatar*
Oh shucks.....
Ok I have come to this 'debate' late, so apologies if I repeat anything.
I cannot believe that Nevrax would ban someone for expressing an opinion here. Jyudas has expressed his long and loud, I don't dispute that. Isn't that because he CARES about the way the game is going? I have seen plenty of constructive suggestions/opinions from Jyudas and others about PvP in general and EP2 in particular. What have I seen from pro-PvP people? The majority of posts in favour have been along the lines of "it's here, get over it" or "don't go into the PvP zone if you don't like it." Hardly 'constructive'.
If we're talking about personal attacks, isn't calling people trolls being personal/insulting?
How come some other people haven't been banned?
Example:
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19542
There was another example I was going to give that merited a ban IMHO, but that thread has now been deleted. Culprit hasn't been banned yet.
Smacks of double standards, or worse Nevrax targetting a particular group of dissenters because Nevrax don't like criticism of their game.
Next you'll be banning anyone with a skull avatar!
*looks at avatar*
Oh shucks.....
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Chasing the DING!
All posts are In Person (Not IC, not OOC, not Rp, just me!)
Chasing the DING!
katriell wrote:You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
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Re: To agree or to disagree.
As stated there http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php ... stcount=66 :
- When a new flaming/trolling post appears, I look at the history of the account, to see if this is a reccurrent behavior or not;
- If it isn't, I just issue a warning by email;
- If it is, or if a warning has been ignored, the forum access is suspended.
And :
Don't misunderstand me though. This is NOT meant to stop you from giving your real thoughts or from stating that something is bad if that's what you think. We rely on these comments to improve our work. But they have to be written in a constructive and courteous way.
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Xavier.
- When a new flaming/trolling post appears, I look at the history of the account, to see if this is a reccurrent behavior or not;
- If it isn't, I just issue a warning by email;
- If it is, or if a warning has been ignored, the forum access is suspended.
And :
Don't misunderstand me though. This is NOT meant to stop you from giving your real thoughts or from stating that something is bad if that's what you think. We rely on these comments to improve our work. But they have to be written in a constructive and courteous way.
--
Xavier.