Guilty caught you dirty scum

[roninpvp]

In your mind it is not acceptable, I personally would have to agree with the opinion. Others will not see this view and only see that they are contributing to their cause in a positive way. In all reality whether a RP'er or casual player you enter any dangerous area knowing full well that anything may happen to cause the rise of DP. In the case of AD it is heightened to where it is an acceptable method for players to do whatever they can to gain the upper hand. Remember winning is everything, 2nd place only means you were the first loser. .

I guess Ballistic Mystics doesnt stand for what I thought Or they are just letting anyone in and your a minority voice in that guild. You really need to stop and read the thread. The Kinchers are being pulled in the the fights. Thus one side is left entirely dead with many killed by the kinchers as well as the other faction. There is no way to get a rez when the entire faction on one side is killed ..have you even been in these battles?

My understanding by the GMs was this was not acceptable behaviour in PvP areas. That it is never acceptable and that it is indeed a Code of Conduct Violation since dragging agro is harressment and gives death penalty to other players.

If this is different cause this is an FvF then fine tell us.

To add my opinion about this whole DP thing, if you really don't like DP make sure you have a plan set to have a back up healer ready with an aura and a speed up for those lovely kincher situations. Other than that if you really hate DP stay out of AD till you level everything you want to 250 then you can stop worrying about clearing it. Then again if you did that, that would stop threads like these and people watching the forums would get bored.

Like i said your clueless on the the impossiblity of these battles. And I'm sure I have more 250's then you so I'll do use the forums. If this bores you why dont you just stay off the forums yourself or stop trying to tell people how to play. better yet lets see who has more 250s and the loser shuts up.

[iphdrunk]

Others will not see this view and only see that they are contributing to their cause in a positive way. In all reality whether a RP'er or casual player you enter any dangerous area knowing full well that anything may happen to cause the rise of DP.

I know I'll get DP, I have like half the max at all times, only becuase I dig and remove it. I don't mind getting DP due to the current flow of actions, I don't mind having DP at all, in fact. But I do mind the behavior denounced here.

To add my opinion about this whole DP thing, if you really don't like DP make sure you have a plan set to have a back up healer ready with an aura and a speed up for those lovely kincher situations.

Not the same thing. I know about the kinchers, I don't even mind if, while killing a kincher, I get nuked. I don't mind about the DP, as I said.

On the other hand, the argument "you should not complain about getting DP" is hlaf valid. If you really think so, then, you will agree with me, let's turn DP on even if killed by a homin ! \o/ yay, yes please!!! in fact, we do die, why aren't we getting DP?? please devs, add DP to any death!!

[alibasil]

On the other hand, the argument "you should not complain about getting DP" is hlaf valid. If you really think so, then, you will agree with me, let's turn DP on even if killed by a homin ! \o/ yay, yes please!!! in fact, we do die, why aren't we getting DP?? please devs, add DP to any death!!

Im much like you Ani. I really dont care about DP, I'm more than happy to go off and dig it away.

But for all the people that go into the new PvP zone and get dp from mob pulling, because its such a hostile environment maybe the DP should be turned on for PvP related death too. It solves all this stupid ranting which im really tired of reading about. Sure its annoying when it happens to you but then again what good is whining going to do?

I guess mob related DP could be turned off in that zone to make it a DP free zone, but then in a way its making the game easier than it should be!

[vguerin]

On the other hand, the argument "you should not complain about getting DP" is hlaf valid. If you really think so, then, you will agree with me, let's turn DP on even if killed by a homin ! \o/ yay, yes please!!! in fact, we do die, why aren't we getting DP?? please devs, add DP to any death!!

I see your complaints about inconsistancy but it is totally misguided. The exact opposite should be true... there should in NO WAY be any DP in a FvF zone. We are there to serve the very folks that provide us our "rez", why would it cost us DP when we are there specifically to serve.

Just another poorly thought out implementation.... inconsistant.

[riveit]

I think that dp from kinchers should be turned off in Aelius Dunes. If they could simultaneously turn off xp from kinchers, then there would be no exploits from this modification. Correct? Then everyone fighting there would only be working for honor points or rp reasons.

One of homin's foremost goals in the Dunes is to get killed by the opposite side and not by the kinchers. That motivation runs counter to the purpose of the episode and distorts the tactics, causing another bad byproduct.

[swe999]

May be immature but the kinchers are there for a reason.
Can't turn off DP from kinchers because it would encourage that sort of dragging behavior.

[riveit]

Can't turn off DP from kinchers because it would encourage that sort of dragging behavior.

People wouldn't care much about the dragging if they received no dp.

[cindyk]

Ok, I wasn't going to say anything here because I expected some input from Nevrax. I had a question on this very subject my first night in AD (the second night of the new area). I asked a Guide that was in game what was the PTB stance on training mobs on another person or group. At first the answer was that in some instances, where it was done repeatedly, it would be considered harrassment.

But, then as clarification, the Guide continued with the following:

"Are we talking about Aelius Dunes? because PVP zones would be treated slightly different. It would be looked on as a tactical use of terrain more than harrassment in this case."

I can quote this because I took a screenshot of the conversation. I am not naming the guide because I don't have their permission to quote them. Hopefully someone "official" will go on the record here in the forums.

Don't assume that because I am posting this that I am FOR this tactic, because I am not. Just passing on the "official" viewpoint of this as it was communicated to me.

[vguerin]

I am not naming the guide because I don't have their permission to quote them. Hopefully someone "official" will go on the record here in the forums.

I think if you check the official Q&A somewhere it says the same thing. In a PvP zone that conduct is not illegal... I believe this was brought up in a Q & A concerning Outposts...

People can get in an uproar, but it's been addressed...

[ariwen]

I don't care wether it is stated or not and I don't care if GMs/Guides do something about it or not. I consider aggro training as harassment and breaking the Code Of Conduct. If a player behaves badly, it is our obligation to report it and to denounce it in region.

Disapproving this 'strategy',

Well Said!!!