This is supposed to be SAGA

[p46985]

I'm sorry for the new thread guys, but I was feeling like creating it since the Ryzom is not moving in the direction that me and many of my friends have been expecting it to move.

Ryzom has always been known for its community. Turning the game into PvP kill fest has been a very bad idea. I've been playing this game on and off for a year now, and the thing that fascinated me in ryzom was the SAGA bit. Yes, I understand SAGA being a tale, a series of events unfolded and influenced by players. This means that competition between karawan and kami should take form of competing events (for example elimination of kitin threat), not just introducing mindless pvp. From the developing perspective I understand that plugging in PvP, honor points counter is easy as opposed to organization of real, Saga-like events, but this approach is wrong for this game.

I do hope that developers are reading these threads and that they are listening to their players, if there was a time to do that NOW IS THE TIME.

[norvic]

see "Calling all Homins" Saga section

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18918

[vurumai]

Software development continues to be an extremely imperfect art.

Gaping chasms typically exist between philosophical intent, application design and execution - ie. development & testing - in most software development groups and it would appear that Nevrax is no exception

Oh – and did I forget - having the requirement to satisfy a hugely diverse game playing population - and their intrinsic emotional and entertainment must pose a continual ongoing challenge.

My 2c. Bit of screw up on the execution piece, which I am inclined to put down to trying to do too much. BUT certainly not worth throwing ya toys too far out of the cot AND leaving.

<cynic mode = ON>
<flame retardant suite = DONNED>

Designer Spec

<Objective = BUILD TEMPLES to Kami OR Karavan>
<PvP=Max>
<Aggro=Max>
<Harvest Difficulty=Max>
<Crafting Mission Risk = Min>

Developer Pseudo Code

Set Faction = Kami OR Karavan
Set Mob Respawn Rate = 120
Set Material Source Location = Fixed AND <= Mob Spawn Point
Set Fight Honour Point = Max Homin Killed Skill / Team skill Max Value
Set Land Type = Desert
Set Fight Honour Points for Defending Diggers against Kittin = OFF
Set Craft Type = Jeweler

Player response

Overt PvP Supporter = Finally – best thing since sliced bread, lemme kill everything that moves – or kick it till it does …
Closet PvP supporter = Hey – this is more fun than I expected
Role Player supporter = Dammit this is SOOOO inconsistent with the story line
Pacifists = **** this – I am out of here
Zora/Lakeland/Matis Foragers – why do I feel like my pants are down around my ankles???

Recode
Set Kami Tolerance = OFF
Set Forage Specialization = OFF
Set Mob Respawn Rate = RAND (600, 900)

<cynic mode = OFF>

[lemoi]

I'm sorry for the new thread guys, but I was feeling like creating it since the Ryzom is not moving in the direction that me and many of my friends have been expecting it to move.

Ryzom has always been known for its community. Turning the game into PvP kill fest has been a very bad idea. I've been playing this game on and off for a year now, and the thing that fascinated me in ryzom was the SAGA bit. Yes, I understand SAGA being a tale, a series of events unfolded and influenced by players. This means that competition between karawan and kami should take form of competing events (for example elimination of kitin threat), not just introducing mindless pvp. From the developing perspective I understand that plugging in PvP, honor points counter is easy as opposed to organization of real, Saga-like events, but this approach is wrong for this game.

I do hope that developers are reading these threads and that they are listening to their players, if there was a time to do that NOW IS THE TIME.

Let me start this with my usual disclaimer: PvP is evil...

With that out of the way there are 4 things we can't ignore:

- This game has always been a PvE and PvP game. Saying that the game is being turn into PvP all of the sudden shows just a little bit of ignorance when it comes to the game's history. Here an interview done more then 2 years ago...
- It looks like the whole "Outpost" thing is going to be nothing but an advanced form of PvE, or at least that's what I reckon from this article... Finally some use for all those dappers that people don't know what do to with.
- R2 is comming.
- And this probably the must important point of them all!