Episode 2 Poll

[szoszi]

This "thingy" has got a big NO from me because of the following reasons:

- There is no way to stay outside PvP, there are some people who will come there and nuke you to the ground. You are forced to fight.

That wouldn't be a problem for me as I like PvP but:

- Ryzom is not a PvP game. It is fun for people who leveled themselves high enough and now can nuke and nuke and ... nuke.

- I like exploring and protecting harvesters more than going there and back between the camps again and again and ... again.

- I've expected a land I can't run though in five minutes.
- I've expected so much kitins that we have actually fight with the kitins, not just kill them because they are disturbing us in nuking each other.

This episode shows me only one thing:

Nevrax has pretty good designers and graphic coders. They have good rp people who can design a nice rp environment.

But they doesn't have anyone who see outside grinding and levels. You grind more you get more. It doesn't matter if you love the game, it doesn't matter if you help others, only time you spend online counts. And I think that is bad.

bye, blondy

ps: [flame on] and for DT: yes i've spent some hours in the new areas, so I know what i'm talking about, yes i'm an active FPS player and I like PvP, yes you have to look out of your head sometimes [/flame off]

[Edit: typing mistakes]

[blaah]

has anybody tried exploiting the system ?

2 kami and 2 karavan faction(one healer, one nuker) meet in somewhere non-aggro place and nukers start nuking each other in turns.. healers will rez

do you get "honor" points ?

for mods/devs: that is soo simple scenario, so nuking this post does not remove problem if this is doable and should have been considered and removed by devs.

[grimjim]

has anybody tried exploiting the system ?

2 kami and 2 karavan faction(one healer, one nuker) meet in somewhere non-aggro place and nukers start nuking each other in turns.. healers will rez

do you get "honor" points ?

for mods/devs: that is soo simple scenario, so nuking this post does not remove problem if this is doable and should have been considered and removed by devs.

The idea had occurred to some of us. Have considered it as a form of 'protest' but its still exploiting.

[xenofur]

We were told neutral stance would be able to contribute and that it wouldn't be all about the pro PvP.

neutral = kami/karavan-allegiance, it has absolutely nothing to do with pro or anti-pvp.

a little hint at those who complain about always being killed: don't do it alone.

[sx4rlet]

I havent voted yet, as I have not been in the game yet, since this became active. But to be honest, the threads really sound grave.
They sound even worse then during the PvP kills in the PR.

*well... of to work, and lets see tonight*

[iphdrunk]

do you get "honor" points ?

There is a "safe" interval of 4 minutes during which you don't get honor points for repeteadly killing someone. Also, we have witnessed how to 'get' honor points but not sure if we can lose them. At some point sysinfo sais when I got kiled something like "you don't lose any honor point".

One would think that this way of exploiting the system by players has been somewhat dicussed by the devs, right? one can only guess

[grimjim]

neutral = kami/karavan-allegiance, it has absolutely nothing to do with pro or anti-pvp.

a little hint at those who complain about always being killed: don't do it alone.

Neutral means you don't necessarily want part of any conflict.
That applies equally to people who pay lip service to either faction as well and aren't gank fanatics.
Neutral and non-pvp generally go hand in hand though.

[rdfall]

Then don't be part jyudas, the game is still what it used to be, just with some extra features, the building sites, and a new part of the map. Don't like pvp? don't go to the new part of the map, same as in PR, this map was made for pvp, so let's just have fun with it.

[grimjim]

Then don't be part jyudas, the game is still what it used to be, just with some extra features, the building sites, and a new part of the map. Don't like pvp? don't go to the new part of the map, same as in PR, this map was made for pvp, so let's just have fun with it.

But its NOT fun.

Its the first thing we've had in ages, its 'content', an opportunity to build something that will leave a lasting impression and result on Atys.
Promises were made about neutral and non-pvp content and they've not been upheld.

This is exactly the same as squirreling materials away in PvP zones, only worse, because this has decidedly more roleplay appeal than just digging up some zun amber.

PvP isn't necessarily a problem provided people approach it with maturity but within five minutes everything that was most positive about Ryzom was tossed out the window and the worst excesses of 'leetness' were on show.

I'll give it a few more tries simply because I want to be part of the temple creation, but I resent options being denied me and having to do something I loathe and detest in order to be part of this. Not to mention having to expose myself to the poop-flinging antics of the usual suspects.

[pr0ger]

If you're a fighter the only way to get 'honour' (Poor choice of words) is by killing other homin, something I don't want to do. Why not the kitin?

Honor points through blunt killing is way too exploitable.
- kitin killing = honor, let's team there instead of void/goc
- making honor point possible only if you team with foragers = ok let's set-up a shift and a consensual battlefield to have tons of "honor"
- just plain shoot diggers. even if it gives very low "honor", mass slaughter will help. I'll camp the wood spot...

this is just too wild.