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[grimjim]

and you would like us to play your game. Your point can just be as easily used against you as it could be to prove it.

No, you see, here's the fundamental difference.

People of other play styles and inclinations CANNOT force you to play their type of game. You can however force them to your style of play. You can reduce their freedom and impede their fun and enjoyment from the game but they cannot do the same to you.

Organising any sort of armed response to the people ganking and killing willy-nilly in the PR only provides PKers with what they're after, rewarding bad behaviour.

Its not the same thing at all and it CANNOT be reversed.

[grimjim]

Here's the deal once AGAIN on the 'ganking.' I'm sure you have forgotten, as you don't go to PR unless on some kind of event with your friends, you get this wonderful little message that says (and even counts the time down for you! wow!) 'You will be attackable in xx seconds.' At the end, its says, 'You are now attackable, be careful.'

So long as people continue to gank and slay without regard to faction or the context of the background this defence of bad behaviour is meaningless.

[lillaryn]

Why must any thread with a PvP hint in it degenerate in this Fashion.
Although elements of gameplay by PvP types are at total odds to many others they are right about one thing in the fact that some areas of the roots are PvP areas.
What never ceases to amaze me is why they bring the worst elements of thier playstyle to these boards. IMO these boards are where people can express opinions and discuss topics, they are not areas for personal attacks, insults and goading.
Although in my opinion the actions of some guilds are detrimental to the game one of the guild leaders has managed to express his opinions without the need for insults or personal references and I wholeheartedly wish others could do the same.
Although it has been discussed and proved many times already that the majority of the playerbase in this game are against fully open PvP I would,nt want anyone to be denied a voice but just hope the Noisy minority would put a little more thought into their posts if they must drag this topic on.

This post is has 'degraded' into a discussion with myself and Keoni about our two guilds. I would really appreciate players 'chiming in' when they have no real place in any of this to just stop. You're welcome to read, but honestly, there are several posts about open pvp created by the devs. You can state your opinions there. Also, contrary to what many people believe here, I have no use in killing most players. Especially those who, I assume, like to craft and use rifles. Stop adding fuel to the fire and repeating what others have said just to hear your own voice, please. I'm trying to understand and get Keoni to TALK instead of repeating the same thing she's said in just about every post that I have read thus far.

Thank you.

--Lil

[lillaryn]

So long as people continue to gank and slay without regard to faction or the context of the background this defence of bad behaviour is meaningless.

Again, Jyudas, I would appreciate you fully reading every post. This conflict is between me and Audrey, and has developped into a conversation between me and Keoni. No one has 'uslessly' ganked anyone. Audrey has been rude and abnoxious to many players associated with me and my guild, and I will not stand for it. Please get your facts straight before commenting on something for which you have no reason to.

Thank you,
Lil

[norvic]

Lil this is an open thread not a chatroom between 2 players, I posted a general opinion and I thank you for your response as it clearly reinforces the point i was expressing

[lillaryn]

Lil this is an open thread not a chatroom between 2 players, I posted a general opinion and I thank you for your response as it clearly reinforces the point i was expressing

No sweetie, it only expresses that you don't know what's going on, and while your opinion is appreciated, it is not backed by the facts. Unless you know the parties involved a lot better than I think, I believe that you should do some research before you make a 'general' comment. This post was intended as a joke to lighten things up, but I was sorely mistaken when I thought that people who played this game had senses of humor. If you don't like PvP, I would suggest you strengthen your skills and participate and realize how fun guild battles are, or avoid it altogether. Some of us like it, and work hard to achieve our skills so that we can be effective. Either way, the choice is yours.

Also, as I expressed in good faith to one of your guild mates, being outspoken on the forums can be dangerous to your peaceful play experience. I personally would not do that to a player my guild/alliance is not at war with, but there are some who would. I mean this as advice, not a warning or a threat. I don't want to see more posts of truly innocent players griefed by others. None of the people our guild has allegedly done such things to were 'innocent' by any means.

Have fun, and if you need any help anytime, I'm always availible.

--Lil

[iwojimmy]

And how do you do the plural thing with the word vorax?

plural of Vorax is
/shout ADD!!!!

[norvic]

Not going to make any further comment here as i stand by my original post forum attacks are unecessary and pointless and detrimental.

[magick1]

This post is has 'degraded' into a discussion with myself and Keoni about our two guilds. I would really appreciate players 'chiming in' when they have no real place in any of this to just stop.

This is hilarious. No really, it is. Pot, meet kettle.
PvP> Anyone are allowed to attack each others. You push your "fun" at others.
Forum> Anyone are allowed to post replies to each others. You try to refuse others to post/join in.

You're welcome to read, but honestly, there are several posts about open pvp created by the devs. You can state your opinions there.

Thank you kind master for allowing this poor servant to uther a word ... somewhere else.

I'm trying to understand and get Keoni to TALK instead of repeating the same thing she's said in just about every post that I have read thus far.

Even more fun, concidering this earlier post

INVOLVED??? LOL. I seriously doubt that replying to every post you deem unfit to your standards in a snobby way can be called 'involvment.' Try less words and more action if you feel that way. Stop hiding behind your tribe of packers and diggers and come on down!

[magick1]

As for all the PvP threads lately, it clearly shows that PvP and non-PvP have a very long way ahead of it, before the two can mutually exist. And that the lack of understanding between the two will only excavate the cliff between them.
PvPers, could you please keep that aspect to those with an interrest in it or at least try to keep it non-personal and/or guild/fame/lore related?
Non-PvPers, accept that you can and will be killed in PvP areas, if you don't wish to be part of it, inform the PvPers that you have no interest and they might hear you out. Or just stay away from those areas if you can't accept PvP.

As for me, I will enter any PvP area under the assumption that PvPers will not attack me. And if they do, I will not fight back. There are far more interresting things out there, than fighting other homins.