Leaving

[monkey3]

Hi all,

I doubt most of you will know me, as you can tell by my post counter I'm not exactly a regular poster to the forums but I am a regular reader. I have played Ryzom throughout it's Open Beta and for the past six/seven months...

My name is Shadowmonkey and I love this game or, more accurately, I love the potential this game has. The graphics are beautiful, the community is the best I've been in or around on the Internet and there is so much more that could be done to this place that would make it the envy of every other MMORG player...

But I've become increasingly bored with the whole place, it's simply team up, fight something, fight something else, get bored, go and do a bit of harvesting/crafting... None of this fills me with any kind of pleasure or satisfaction anymore and I've only been on randomly in the last month for precisly that reason, there's nothing keeping me interested in the game enough to come on-line anymore...

The Outposts are being hailed as the saviour of the game, something that will re-ignite the RP aspect of the place and give guilds something to work on and battle against. I disagree, the most powerful guilds will obtain the best outposts, the other, lesser, guilds will fight amongst themselves for the smaller ones while their members (increasingly bored being in a guild with no Outpost) will flock to join one of the bigger ones until there are but a few huge guilds left that own everything... I'm not saying this will definately happen but I think that the likely-hood is depressingly high..

Ryzom-Ring, I'm sorry but what? Why waste time on something like this when there are parts of the game (that were supposed to be working at time of release) that are obviously dodgy or completely missing? I admit, it could be great, it will be the only one of it's kind and I can see the attraction. What I would be more attracted to, however, are problems and missing components fixed and added to the main game.

Make the main game attractive (and complete)and you don't have to tease players with glorified add-ons such as the Ring.

I turned to the dark-side a month ago and tried out World Of Warcraft. The UI is horrible, the chat system sucks arse and the community is so bad that I wanted to drop a nuclear bomb on the whole thing and declare it unfit for human consumption.

Then, strangely, the quest system, the ability of following a story that means something and goes somewhere, took hold of me. I met a few nice ppl and joined their guild. I tried out different professions and different classes and I found it so much more interesting than just choosing a race that has no effect on the abilities of the characters (until 125 ele that is) and seeing where it could take me..

Then came the crunch, I could no longer afford to keep up a sub on both games and so I had to choose which one I carried on with. The pros and cons with both games were long lists but there was only one conclusion for me...

World of Warcraft (at the moment) is a better game...

Regardless of the amount of idiots you find on it, the sense of achievment, progress and satisfaction as you complete quests and gain lvls is without parallel within Ryzom. Gaining specific abilities for different classes instead of just the basic ele or melee lvls is so much more interesting and it encourages you to have more than one character so you can see how everything works, what other classes get that you don't etc....

There just so much more...content to it

I hate this, I really do. Ryzom will forever be my favourite MMORG for it's potential if nothing else but unless they sort out the rites, offer additional skills and deliver other, promised, content I'm leaving this virtual world for the forseeable future...

So why write this? Why go through all of this when I'm not going to be about much anymore?

I would be very interested to know what other people think; of my decision, of what I've said and how others think about this game regarding the topics I've brought up this rather lengthy post...

I'll keep reading these forums, I'll still read the news items. If and when there's more interesting things to do than the big three (fight, craft/harv) I'll be back...

But for now, I have to say goodby and God bless to you all...

Take care

ShadowMonkey

[pr0ger]

Well, you got point. If you're not someone who have a very long term objective in game involving current gameplay feature, of course you get bored.

As you ask, i'll react

About WoW, yes, of course... you have many more "content pick up choice", ryzom is beaten against that

The Outposts are being hailed as the saviour of the game, something that will re-ignite the RP aspect of the place and give guilds something to work on and battle against. I disagree, the most powerful guilds will obtain the best outposts, the other, lesser, guilds will fight amongst themselves for the smaller ones while their members (increasingly bored being in a guild with no Outpost) will flock to join one of the bigger ones until there are but a few huge guilds left that own everything... I'm not saying this will definately happen but I think that the likely-hood is depressingly high..

That will not happens. Big guild being bigger ? Ryzom's player-made history shows us it fail : the Divine Council of Pyr died from internal wars, Infinity today recruited some people who gives them bad fame through those forum (*nudge nudge* lol)...
I bet on the dynamics in-game, like guilds alliances... since outpost must be fame based or race based, we'll finish with 2 (kami/karavan) or 4 (race), even 6 (neutral/betrayers) big factions where guilds can belongs to, and team up to fight others.
If you have a pure solo-player (or unpowered guild member) point of view, i understand you, but when you think about the politics that it will involve, you even can think that big factions/alliance will GIVE outposts to guilds (in order to manage upkeep, land survey, managing timezones...). And i don't even speak about players who like leadership, the conquest for the prime root world, and (my favorite) military strategies and tactics...
I hate PvP, but skipping the "player killing job" and thinking more as a chess game, GvG / Faction vs Faction will for sure gathers all ranks, skill and levels since guild leaders will need them all !!!!!


About ryzom ring, well, yes, i think they shouldnt push it as the hyper addon who will save the world (lol) ... prolly 1 player over 20 or 30 will use it... all we can hope is that addon will add new objects, goodies and so on in the normal world.

[toneh]

the Divine Council of Pyr died from internal wars,

we still here m8!

Albeit a lot smaller, but I think closer guild.

[g00st]

heya Shadowmonkey )

ghuiss remembers a old young monkey running around the jungle. good times beer and najabb skin. sorry to see the old monkey no longer dancing (. Times are tough in the jungle but there are new faces and hope around the corner.

/target ghuiss
/silly
/sad

At the end of the day all rpg games are gonna be the same and on a long enough time line everyone will quit. seems the french are good at making head aches in a can (stella) so if you dont enjoy something then theres no point playing or paying.

Bored? try something different, try helping some others, try playing a character, try making up some quests, try being evil?, try dancing throu underspring with no death or tp in 30mins, chose life on atyss. (trying for a kinda trainspotting type thing there)

[monkey3]

heya Shadowmonkey )

ghuiss remembers a old young monkey running around the jungle. good times beer and najabb skin. sorry to see the old monkey no longer dancing (. Times are tough in the jungle but there are new faces and hope around the corner.

Hello mate

Yeah things could well be changing but unfortunately not soon enough...!

I agree I could easily get bored with WoW after a while which is why I haven't ruled out coming back when Ryzom gets itself sorted, of which I am confident it will...

Good luck to you tho, it was good hanging round with you when we did, take care...

ShadowMonkey

[basicart]

I got through US in about 15mins walk to karavan np then speed - melee aura - invul to portal good fun

[monkey3]

I also wanna say goodbye to a few Peeps that I may not find in my final walks through Atys...

Mikos, Misian, Celikiel and the rest of the bods from Abyss Eye - it was great to meet you, thanks for all your help and I hope AE goes from strength to strength

Twitches - you crazy madman, take care mate, hopefully I'll catch you before I go and get you all these matts that are waiting for you, be a shame to let them go to waste. Good luck with all you do in the world, real life and virtual...

And Guiss of course - Chelsea may have bottomless pockets but we'll still kick your arse in the League mate

[monkey3]

I would say DazMan as well but, well, I see him about in real life and thats enough....

[philu]

seems the french are good at making head aches in a can (stella)

I hate to be picky but Stella is Belgian mate.


P.S. Good luck shadowmonkey.

[g00st]

I hate to be picky but Stella is Belgian mate.


P.S. Good luck shadowmonkey.

ah but they inject it with french wife beating chemicals