Why would ya use ranged for running about and shooting in PvP when ya can do the same with 300 sap cristals and ya amps and do 3k dmg enchanting and runningmmatto wrote:
In PvP ranged role is in skirmishing, using their mobility to advantage and attacking weaker opponents such as mages disrupting them and dealing some damage when opposing armies are still moving to contact. I agree that ranged could be theoretically used effectively in that role after some more PvP balancing like proposed healing nerf.
Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
Re: Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
Re: Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
Some damage and other info about ranged:
Pistol & Bowpistol:
Min range: 15m
Max range: 30m
Min hpm (with stanza): 30
Max hpm (with stanza): 60
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 345
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 345
Rifle & Bowrifle:
Min range: 20m
Max range: 40m
Min hpm (with stanza): 24
Max hpm (with stanza): 48
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 459
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 367
Autolauncher:
Min range: 25m
Max range: 50m
Min hpm (with stanza): 12(?)
Max hpm (with stanza): 24(?)
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 1104
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 441
Launcher:
Min range: 30m
Max range: 60m
Min hpm (with stanza): 12(?)
Max hpm (with stanza): 24(?)
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 1656
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 662
This is what I calculated, the damage/shot info is accure, DPS might have small rounding errors (+-1), not sure about autolauncher and launcher hpm, but seems accurate...
Hope this helps some
Pistol & Bowpistol:
Min range: 15m
Max range: 30m
Min hpm (with stanza): 30
Max hpm (with stanza): 60
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 345
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 345
Rifle & Bowrifle:
Min range: 20m
Max range: 40m
Min hpm (with stanza): 24
Max hpm (with stanza): 48
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 459
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 367
Autolauncher:
Min range: 25m
Max range: 50m
Min hpm (with stanza): 12(?)
Max hpm (with stanza): 24(?)
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 1104
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 441
Launcher:
Min range: 30m
Max range: 60m
Min hpm (with stanza): 12(?)
Max hpm (with stanza): 24(?)
Max possible damage per shot (lvl250): 1656
Max possible damage per second (lvl250): 662
This is what I calculated, the damage/shot info is accure, DPS might have small rounding errors (+-1), not sure about autolauncher and launcher hpm, but seems accurate...
Hope this helps some
Last edited by holina on Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
Holina, Na-Holï, Nirali (Silan)
Member of Evolution
Crafter: Tryker Waving Bowpistol (q160), Zoraï Electric Launcher, Electric Bowrifle (q160), Tryker HQ amp craft hobbyist (q160)
Digger: Lakes (q220)

Member of Evolution
Crafter: Tryker Waving Bowpistol (q160), Zoraï Electric Launcher, Electric Bowrifle (q160), Tryker HQ amp craft hobbyist (q160)
Digger: Lakes (q220)
Re: Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
mmatto wrote:I agree that ranged could be theoretically used effectively in that role after some more PvP balancing like proposed healing nerf.
Nuff saidbasicart wrote:Why would ya use ranged for running about and shooting in PvP when ya can do the same with 300 sap cristals and ya amps and do 3k dmg enchanting and running![]()
Mikos, Abyss Eye
Re: Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
For AoE ranged weapons (launcher, autolauncher) max possible damage must be multiplied by 6 if there is multiple targets. I have really used only autolauncher, but I suppose that same applies for launcher.
AoE weapond actually provides some nice tactics for soloing that combine mob train, shooting and running at same time
AoE weapond actually provides some nice tactics for soloing that combine mob train, shooting and running at same time
Mikos, Abyss Eye
Re: Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
Yes that's true, AoE can multiply damage - might be good for crowd control in PvP... who knows - but can swing both ways in PvE. Can save you if you have an add but can cause lots of adds aswell.mmatto wrote:For AoE ranged weapons (launcher, autolauncher) max possible damage must be multiplied by 6 if there is multiple targets. I have really used only autolauncher, but I suppose that same applies for launcher.
AoE weapond actually provides some nice tactics for soloing that combine mob train, shooting and running at same time![]()
Will need to test the blast radius sometime aswell as spread of spray.
Holina, Na-Holï, Nirali (Silan)
Member of Evolution
Crafter: Tryker Waving Bowpistol (q160), Zoraï Electric Launcher, Electric Bowrifle (q160), Tryker HQ amp craft hobbyist (q160)
Digger: Lakes (q220)

Member of Evolution
Crafter: Tryker Waving Bowpistol (q160), Zoraï Electric Launcher, Electric Bowrifle (q160), Tryker HQ amp craft hobbyist (q160)
Digger: Lakes (q220)
Re: Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
have to point out.. you cant CARRY a minutes worth of ammo for a launcher..
cant remember, and websites dont seem to have the info, but think bulk was 30 per shot ! or maybe only 15.
once i log back into the game, I may test my recollection
cant remember, and websites dont seem to have the info, but think bulk was 30 per shot ! or maybe only 15.
once i log back into the game, I may test my recollection
Re: Some assistance on ranged weapons, pls?
First, that's one kickass list holina.
Ooh, it's certainly _quite_ a lot of bulk. When crafting, I usually can only hold ~20 shots on me at one time, even if I strip down my bag to the bare essentials for crafting. Launchers and autolaunchers are not the kind of thing that you would be carrying spare shots for.iwojimmy wrote:have to point out.. you cant CARRY a minutes worth of ammo for a launcher..
cant remember, and websites dont seem to have the info, but think bulk was 30 per shot ! or maybe only 15.
Syne
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Running around Silan as Asyne
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"In the world I see, you're stalking elk through the damp canyon forest around the ruins of Rockefeller Center."
Waiting for R2
Running around Silan as Asyne
REGISTERED MINITRUE AGENT
"In the world I see, you're stalking elk through the damp canyon forest around the ruins of Rockefeller Center."