Soloing

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madnak
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Re: Soloing

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Well, I like solo to be viable too. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a group, and sometimes I just want to play around alone. But this game just isn't made for it. It's not as bad as some of the games out there, but it's bad. Soloing melee is extremely tedious past a certain point. It usually means getting 1.2 xp for a mob and then waiting 10 minutes for self-heal. Nuke is much better, and it is possible to do it solo (though having a healer is of course much more efficient). But there's still major downtime. The difference between killing 3 najabs per minute and killing 1 every 5 minutes is huge. Remember that going from level 200 to level 250 takes an enormous amount of xp. The progression is certainly not linear. In the upper 200s you will be very lucky to make one level every 8 hours solo.
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The sweet spot for soloing is 1000-1300 XP pretty much. Even in that range, you may need to dip down into a bit lower XP when you are nearing a milestone lvl.

As some have mentioned, you can select mobs which are better suited to your style and give you the best entertainment and enjoyment.

Noin.

EDIT: You may get more XP / time if that is your beef by killing lower XP mobs say 400-700 XP and just running em over in 2-3 shots. Thus reducing the chance the special you, and decreasing the amount of whatever(sap/stam) that you consume.

The stanza system is really there for solo-er's play around a bit more, you may be surprised.
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Re: Soloing

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rushin wrote:you really dont like it when people disagree with you do you? and my post was answering the points you raised. Infact everyones have been so far..
that was notihig about agreement or disagreement. the request was to devs - my personal request - and you or others have nothing to do with it. the question was for players. IF players have any worthy sugestions about soloing, perfect. if not... i see no reson for smart replies, really. is just spam. is like you talk with someone at a party, i pass near you two, and after I listen some phrases i start having oppinions. if you get annoyed of my intervention i ask inocently "you really dont like it when people disagree with you do you?" (TM)
rushin wrote:And believe it or not afflic users are a big asset to group whether blinding to help out tanks, or fearing add's, or a load of other ways. I dont think the system need to change so u can level solo - if they introduced these changes everyone would level a lot faster, there would b no need to talk to people (!), or interact in any way.
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Re: Soloing

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Hi there!

I like soloing, because with soloing I'm not dependent on other ppl and at the end I'm not flustrated because of being a melee. As I'm a 2h sword fan I kill mobs slooooooooowly and it's really flustrating when a lvl 140 ele hits ~1400 and I hit ~850 on lvl 185 etc, etc, etc, melee sucks. ;)

But. I've met a lot of nice ppl in this game who invited me into their team so i was able to gain some xp faster (mages kill, i'm the sandbag(tm) ). Hunting in group is always more fun with good peeps, I remember some very, very nice hunt. For example when five ocyxes (lvl 204) attacked a team of six <180 lvl players in GoC, that was a hard fight but we still alive and I remember that day as one of my best days in online gaming. I wouldn't be able to get this fun without teaming. I think this a different type of fun than the one you get when you play alone.

About idiots in the game. I've met with a few. They are on my ignore list. But there is more good ppl than idiots. For example yesterday someone asked in GoC if there is a team of a lvl 120-130 char and there was a team which invited him. Because ppl usually willing to help. All you have to do is to keep yourself away from idiots.

If you wanna some hunting with affliction drop me a tell, we'll find out something. :)

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Re: Soloing

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vutescu wrote:that was notihig about agreement or disagreement. the request was to devs - my personal request - and you or others have nothing to do with it. the question was for players. IF players have any worthy sugestions about soloing, perfect. if not... i see no reson for smart replies, really. is just spam. is like you talk with someone at a party, i pass near you two, and after I listen some phrases i start having oppinions. if you get annoyed of my intervention i ask inocently "you really dont like it when people disagree with you do you?" (TM)
lol, u r funny sometimes. hmm better word might b hypocrtite. if u want to make a personal request to the devs why would you do it on the main forum? I'm sure if people were agreeing u'd b happy with the comments. and last time i checked u wernt a mod, so dont tell people how they can reply to your thread please.
Now i am spamming, so will say no more on the subject -)
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madnak wrote: But this game just isn't made for it. It's not as bad as some of the games out there, but it's bad....
GREAT!!! This game is different than other games! I am so pleased with a game that isnt another WOW or EQ.... or worse... A takeoff from Diablo.

This game is about thinking... how can we take that mob, or how can I get the most out of this situation. If you want to powerlevel to a bajillion in a week, then why are you paying a monthly fee to play a game that you are trying so hard to get over?

Inhale... Exhale... open your eyes, and look at your surroundings. Explore, and experiment with new things. Adjust your stanzas, get hooked on rites... dig a little, thats a great solo skill.

Just because it's hard.... doesn't make it bad, or worse than other games. In my opinion, difficulty should increase in an exponential line, not a linear (borin, predictable) one. I love adds... more excitement and fun. (I dont know how that relates, other than it being spontaneous and unpredictable)

If this game gets to the point where soloing is like all the other MMO's... I dont know what i'll do. In my opinion THESE things, are what make it BETTER than the other games.

Lets not wish for this delicate roasted garlic, with tomatoe, turkey, lettuce, and that special sauce ... sandwich to turn into another burger... like all the other BIG MAC™'s out there. :) (if you get what I mean)

Ooga Booga to all you unfomity-ers/globilizationalists out there!! :)
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larwood wrote:Just because it's hard.... doesn't make it bad, or worse than other games. In my opinion, difficulty should increase in an exponential line, not a linear (borin, predictable) one. I love adds... more excitement and fun. (I dont know how that relates, other than it being spontaneous and unpredictable)
C'mon Thom. He said is BAD for solo. For lonewolfs. Not bad as game.


And to respond to some... I don't allways like teaming because I usually end with DP because I just cant let someone to die and me to run. I don't like when me and some teammates are planning how to kill THAT boss and some "retard"© suddenly gets bored of our planning and rush in the hands/claws of boss. In other words, if i die i want to die of my mistakes, that's all.
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Re: Soloing

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And Vutescu...

no need to get upset, but you did request a response from players. Dont get mad that that they responded differently than how you felt. Its ok. :)

You asked for our opinions about soloing and such, and we gave them. :)
If you dont like them, dont respond... and we will have nothing to say in return. :)

Its like a conversation... when i am playing Ryzom... and my beautiful wife asks me a question, and because i am healing a bunch of Leroy wannabe's :) hehe, I don't "hear" her question... she gives up and stops. Then later, I have to deal with it... but lets not get into that... as we here are not married, and if what i say turns your ears green... you can reply back, which will invite another response from me, or you can suck it up, and not say anything.... which ends the conversation.

like this. :)
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Re: Soloing

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vutescu wrote:In other words, if i die i want to die of my mistakes, that's all.
hehe.... now thats a bright statement. In RL how many people does this apply to? :)


And to reply to the BAD for solo comment... I said, BAD does not = HARD.

Its harder for solo, not worse. :)
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Re: Soloing

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larwood wrote:Its harder for solo, not worse. :)
If that's your style, I suppose. It is extremely slow and also very restricted. And the rate of experience is a fraction of what it is in a group. Also the solo-oriented stanzas tend to be rather underpowered. Many enemies have special attacks that basically mean death for a solo player. The game just isn't tooled for it.
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