Some Questions: Rites, Ex Points...

[selcey]

Hello There dear homins,

I've been playing Ryzom for few days now, mainly as an explorer and not trying to get stronger, but the truth is eventually i have to, in order to explore more dangerous areas

I have few questions which just slips my mind:

1) Rites

Suppose i have done the three specific tasks to get the friendship of Corsairs, the three progression is filled up in my Encyclopedia but the Rite is not given i believe, well how do i take a rite? do i need to speak to someone? how to take final rites in any progression to get cubes of amber in general?

2) Experience points

I realized that as higher we go in level we require more and more xp points in order to level up. What is the system behind it? suppose a player of level 35-39 or so would have to get around 23,000 xp to level up.. so what's the increase in the requirement of xp gaining?

Thanks in advance, i know these are newbish questions, but i cant seem to figure it out O_o

[mmatto]

Suppose i have done the three specific tasks to get the friendship of Corsairs, the three progression is filled up in my Encyclopedia but the Rite is not given i believe, well how do i take a rite? do i need to speak to someone? how to take final rites in any progression to get cubes of amber in general?

Hi and welcome!

Have you tried out barman rite yet? You should do that first. During Zorai barman rite you will meet many homins that are actual rite givers. I guess, it is same with Tryker rites.

There is lots of rite prequisite missions where final rite is not implemented on live server yet. These prequisites were opened up for teasers of upcoming rites. I am not sure if this specific rite is one of those that are implemented yet.

There is quite many other threads that are urging Nevrax to release more rites soon. Actually, their executive producer (or something) just said on sticky question thread that more rites should start flowing in soon.

Also, there is upcoming patch that will show the name of final rite giver when you do any of the prequisite missions.

In general, rite givers speak someting about amber cubes if you ask who is he. If he has implemented rite, then he has mission option that should show ritual mission. Ritual mission will be greyed out if you do not meet requirements for it. Hover on it (or right click, can't remember) to see requirements.

Rite givers should be npc's holding important positions. I won't say more so I do not spoil anything... Oh well ok, I can't say more as I haven't done any Tryker rituals yet

[aylwyne]

Hello There dear homins,

I've been playing Ryzom for few days now, mainly as an explorer and not trying to get stronger, but the truth is eventually i have to, in order to explore more dangerous areas

Welcome to the community!

I have few questions which just slips my mind:

1) Rites

Suppose i have done the three specific tasks to get the friendship of Corsairs, the three progression is filled up in my Encyclopedia but the Rite is not given i believe, well how do i take a rite? do i need to speak to someone? how to take final rites in any progression to get cubes of amber in general?

There's only a few rites actually in the game right now (8, as I recall). However, there's a lot of pages that will show up in the encyclopedia as you do the required missions, even though the final rite is not yet in the game. There's been another batch of rites on the test server for a long time now. Hopefully, they'll get pushed to the live server soon.

2) Experience points

I realized that as higher we go in level we require more and more xp points in order to level up. What is the system behind it? suppose a player of level 35-39 or so would have to get around 23,000 xp to level up.. so what's the increase in the requirement of xp gaining?

Thanks in advance, i know these are newbish questions, but i cant seem to figure it out O_o

I'm not sure if anyone has plotted this out. I've been somewhat tempted to for our site. We did a death penalty chart to show what the DP is at each level. The DP chart does not seem to follow one consistent equation all the way from levels 1-250. The factors in the equation seem to change at a couple of points in the graph. I'm guessing the experience chart will probably be the same. Because of this, we haven't given it much effort.

[thurgond]

The amount of experience needed per level is proportional to the number of levels, i.e. it takes twice the experience to go from 40 to 41 as it did from 20 to 21.

[aylwyne]

The amount of experience needed per level is proportional to the number of levels, i.e. it takes twice the experience to go from 40 to 41 as it did from 20 to 21.

Have you checked this for a broad range of levels, especially the high levels? So far, we at BM have found Ryzom to be notorious for following a pattern for a while and then all of the sudden, changing that pattern.

I'd be happy to learn that it was a nice linear relationship like this so we could produce a chart.

[vutescu]

Is very easy do discover the pattern, just make a new char and have it harvesting. Also write down the xp gained, levels too. Is what I did, but each ten levels the pattern is changing. If someone needs the .txt file, pm me and supply me with a valid e-mail adress. I'll be happy to send the file. Maybe others will have more luck in finding a valid pattern.

[amitst]

They don't tell you the mechanics, but I will tell you that its never a grueling situation to get to the next level.

Its more fun if you arent paying attention to the mechanics.

[madnak]

The amount of experience needed per level is proportional to the number of levels, i.e. it takes twice the experience to go from 40 to 41 as it did from 20 to 21.

I don't believe that. There's a very noticeable curve starting at roughly level 140 where it gets harder and harder to level very quickly. Level 200-201 is definitely more than twice as many xp as level 100-101. I would say it's almost 4 times as hard.

My personal theory is that the experience needed to gain a level proceeds along the same scale as death penalty. It is definitely a bit complicated. And it's not the same throughout all skills - craft levels require fewer xp than fight levels, for example. I've done some small tests and they seem to indicate a progression very similar to that of dp, so for me it's a reasonable assumption that the two are proportionate.

[thurgond]

Have you checked this for a broad range of levels, especially the high levels? So far, we at BM have found Ryzom to be notorious for following a pattern for a while and then all of the sudden, changing that pattern.

I'd be happy to learn that it was a nice linear relationship like this so we could produce a chart.

One night long ago, I was healing in a group of higher levels. Narr got to 40 heal in the same fight as a tank (I'll call him Raynes, because if memory serves, that's who it was) got to 80 in 2hd. When Narr got to 42, Raynes made 81. Through out the long grind session, every other time I got a level, Raynes made one either that fight or the next. Thats the only precise test, but I've seen the same pattern other times. More recently, I gained 5 levels of heal to 101 in a duo where my partner gained 3 levels of melee to 167.

I haven't checked it for high levels, but the pattern seems to hold to for as high as I can test.

[jokque]

While i was healing at zatchel/muncham one day, i dinged 184 on the same kill as one of the team members dinged 114, when he said "ding 115" i was about halfway to 185, and i dinged 185 on the same kill he dinged 116
And as far as i know neither of us lost a single kill (ie lost the xp, due to dying or whatever) in this period
Ie leveling from 114 to 116 takes the same xp as leveling 184 to 185 aparently