Roots Conflict

[caitiff]

I feel the need to reply to a couple things real quick

Better yet, why on Atys is there some need to post this here and publicize it? Isn't this really between 2 people, and possibly 2 guilds. What a joke, are you looking for approval, or looking for help. Keep stuff to yourself and your friends or enemies.
Noin.

Maybe so it is in public that they did to try to prevent any accusations or whatnot from arising later? Maybe so others no as well, maybe someone backs melinoe and would liek to join? Maybe to let others know why they see someone killing another in the PvP areas...


In response to thexdane.
I am not going to go back to say yes, infinity was kill stealling or no they weren't as that is pointless. But honestly I keep seeing you bring those pictures up time after time. You know what those pictures prove? That someone was Kill stealing, it does not prove who. Based off those pictures ('evidence') there is no way for you to show who was there first.


In response to a kami guild allying w/ a karavan guild.
How is this wrong? How does this not fit in with role-playing? Can two people not get along because they do not believe in the same 'religion' as the alliance is. Does that mean I should not associate with catholics, muslims, atheists, mormons, etc. in my everyday life because I am christian? I do not see the problem here as you seem to make out. Obviously the two guilds get along well and are after a common goal as well... the kitins and such. So why must religion hold two guilds apart?

[basicart]

I am not going to go back to say yes, infinity was kill stealling or no they weren't as that is pointless. But honestly I keep seeing you bring those pictures up time after time. You know what those pictures prove? That someone was Kill stealing, it does not prove who. Based off those pictures ('evidence') there is no way for you to show who was there first.

Other people that was in your party have admited to it and said sorry so why cant the rest?

[alibasil]

This thread has the tinyest bit of relevance to Infinity.

Facts:

1. PoA have declared war on Melinoe
2. Infinity are allied with PoA
3. Infinity haven't said that they will assist PoA or infact do anything about this


So why do the same old stories about "they did this" and "they did that" have to keep on cropping up?

I was there at Aen, I saw exactly what happened. Yet I dont feel the need to keep bringing it up. Cant we just bury this bad moment? Because no matter how much evidence is shown (which could 100% prove people being wrong or right) its just going to keep this story alive and I for one want it gone!

So can we just bury this bad moment that obviously people are getting very tired of, and get back to the real point which is Protectors and Atys declaring war on Melinoe?

[totnkopf]

So can we just bury this bad moment that obviously people are getting very tired of, and get back to the real point which is Protectors and Atys declaring war on Melinoe?

Well put. I 2nd the motion!

[basicart]

As far as i know they are allready fighting with infinity so its all the same topic. PoA just want to fight now also cos they didnt get a rez which in turn is due to them helping Infinity steal

[roninpvp]

Actually the Karavan Kami thing here is a Valid point since Infinity members in the past have hid behind a weak premise of role play to harress people in the Void. If you were Karavan then they harressed you. Telling Matis to "go home" "dont piss in our pool" etc.. when traveling through /hunting in Zorai.

[brithlem]

Wow this has taken quite the turn...

Few quick comments....


Thom and Ali.... again... amen to that.


Straying from the normal path:

Sin is, in part, right... yes we used to be rather opposed to most any karavan guild... that got in our way... I'd go so far as to say we were not hostile to ALL karavan guilds... but 3 guilds specifically yeah. Were they all karavan guilds... sure. That is also the Infinity of old... we've lost the majority of our guild to guild wars... mentioned because the people involved in the aggro pulling and kill stealing are no longer in this game much less in the guild.

Now.... am I saying I wish to "be excused" because people are no longer here. Hell no... they may be absent... but they're still "my guys" ... I miss the crap out of them... but as a whole... the mentality of Infinity has changed to a more passive... accepting mentality just because of who is left standing.

That said... there was a perfect post IMO about this whole scenario....

Re-read my post. I didn't say the ending is pre-determined. I said the condition for knowing who wins/loses is determined. In Ryzom there is very little real penalty for PvP. You kill me. I respawn. I get some friends and kill you. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

This may settle it... it may not... it's still a very interesting idea...

Unsure if that covers all I should have covered,

[ixianuk]

ok, Electro here, i have managed to sort out my problem with the forums and can now view and post here, you all seem to not understand why i have started a war, wel the reason being i have had nothing bu full abuse from melinoe and tbh im tired of it, but ok sure i have done wrong im sure i can say we have all done maybe 1-2 things wrong, soheres what im gunna do, you all seem to think that it would be better if it was in Matis arena well ok ill do that then if it saves a war and will sort it out

i now call upon Loomas - Melinoe to a 1 vs 1 challange in the PvP arena if he accepts we fight and 1 of us looses, if he wins ok then its over and i pay his guild more respect, and respect him also, if i win he does the same to me and my guild,

who thinks thats a more responsible way, i dont really want a war but as ive said to poeple in game ive triad and triad to sort things out bbut nothing works so if Loomas accepts my 1vs1 then we fight, so no mattr who winswe respect each other at the end thats all im aking just for a little resect on both sides of this story.... is this to much to ask ?

[ixianuk]

Also another thing... There screenies taken show me attacking Aen so here we go.. yes i was there and yes i did attack Aen so ill say right here right now im sorry to all i upset about attacking Aen.. and im also asking now can we just forget about the past, i have never pulled aggro on anyone..well not on purpose anyways, and when i do and i get poeple killed ill respawn and come to res them asap, about 1 - 2 month ago i got aggro and killed somones packer it was not done on purpose, so i gave the homin 300k from my bag and sai sorry about that mate heres the money to replace your packer, now are you saying that thats aggro pulling, ok i di pull aggro but at least i ressed him and payed for his packer that i killed, i think to myself that ive shown some respect for the person and gave money to replace what i had taken, so when you pos on these forums saying i have aggro pulled all the time igave abuse all the time and i kill steal everytime, well get a life and face the facts, i bet most of the ppl posting these things are melinoe members or ppl that hate me, i dont make poeple hate me, i justr ask for a little respect...

so i ask all homins who play ryzom to show me at least a tiny bit of respect, and i promise from this day forth i shall pay MAXIMUM respect for all homins weather there Kami or Karavan, i post this here cos this isnt reloplay for respect im posting this here to say to all those poeple siting at there desks plaing Ryzom that i will show more respect to you if i havnt done so...

to all those homins ive upset im truely sorry and i hope someday somehow i can make things right between us.. so from Electro be well and gd luck to youall

[alibasil]

Thankyou for your post Electro

its good to hear you dont want or need conflict for yourself or your guild and are willing to sort this out responsibly