higher rate/speed of harving means less mats?

[akicks]

You would want to use higher speed and rate in areas that are dangerous (along with less source time). This is so that you can get in and get out without too much trouble. This is, ofcourse, if you are looking for certain kinds of materials and not xp.

Along with this you might use mat spec (to get up to ql quickly, so that you can run away if need be). Great when you have hungry critters too close to be comfortable.

Otherwise, you would normally want to set up your extraction stanza (and prospect) so that you run out of focus as close to the source depleting as possible. If that's already happening then you've got nothing to worry about

[rushin]

It is a bugged rite that actually should be reported. There is no mission reqs, you just walk up to the ritegiver, you do the rite and receive 50 focus. Hmmmm, would that be an exploit then?
I have no idea what the context is cause the message is something like: <description mission>.

few points:

it's not in yrk
it's not a rite
it's not bugged



the controversial points above i confirmed with a gm when i took the mission last week. the description and text is missing thats all.

[blaah]

few points:

it's not in yrk
it's not a rite
it's not bugged

yess, more riddles... gotta love them...

link:
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.p ... 607&page=2

Go to the Avalae intendant, in one of the trees there. Collect the four types of resin she asks for. Since they are fine amber, you don't need to collect them from Matis lands if you're better digging elsewhere, or simply know where to find the stuff in other lands. Return to the intendant, hand her the stacks one at a time, in the order listed. Collect a permanent 50 focus boost, and do a happy dance.

[zippo123]

May I ask zippo how much focus you do have? Also, what lvl harvester are you? Are you using a mat specialization as well as the terrain specialization? If so I personally have not noticed a difference so get rid of the mat spec. This will help as well.

I have 40xx focus.. Yes i have q250 jewels and q230 armour with focus bonus.. I did 2 rites with +50 focus each. I am lvl 202 and maxed focus and focus regen.

I have a dedicated carer. I use harmfull speed 3 and harmfull rate 5 and currently pull 21 q200 mats all the time. I never have focus problems. I always have 500 left. (counterpart 10?). If i want to increase speed/rate to get more than 21 mats, I end up with less all the time.. max 19 if i remember correctly. It seems that using counterpart 11 uses incredibly more focus than using 10... So i am wondering what exactly the advantage of the speed skills is. (I understand I need some more at q210 and higher)

(My objective is to get most mats out of a source)

I am not using any specializations cos that only makes it much worse. Which totaly makes no sense to me.. lol, i mean, why use something that has no added value but it using focus.

[predzz]

Speed 5/6 are great ways to use up those last bits of focus, after doing most of the pull with speed 3 or 4. Also good for rapidly increasing ql, possibly combined with a material extraction stanza.

You should be able to get more mats with a carer.. I can get 19 ql 250 mats solo, so with a carer and the equipment you got you should be able to get at least 23-25 ql 200 mats. Have you tried using more than 1 extraction action per source? I usually use 2, sometimes even 3 different actions while harvesting a source (besides care planning)

[madnak]

Q210 harmful + 63
Rate 6 harmful + 40
Speed 6 harmful + 40
Terrain spec +10

Action cost: 153
Credit: 160

If you have 4000+ focus you should be pulling ~30 mats easily and quickly without running out of focus.

You aren't using any specs? Terrain spec will increase your yield considerably. If you aren't using it, you should be. Mat spec isn't worth much if you have a careplanner.

This doesn't add up for me. I use a 182 credit and never run out of focus. I also have poor equipment and only 3600 maximum focus. My guess is that your prospecting stanza is awful. You are probably using source time 6 (do not use source time - that will hurt your mat yield). You may not be using terrain spec either (terrain spec is a must).

[keoni]

3?

Would you elaborate on that per chance?

I know the pendant one... wait for the sun ot hit the hill just right.... etc.
The jewelery crafting....

what's the third?

Intrigued,

***Spoiler warning - avert your eyes lest they be seared!!!**



Still reading? Yah thought so. The third, broken-but-effective rite is given by the Avalae intendant. If you do a search for all my posts, I gave details on it awhile back in a thread entitled "3d focus rite?" or some such. But mostly just get the mission and it's self-explanatory.

Edit: doh! somebody already quoted the details I gave in that thread, above. I should really read the threads all the way through before replying to an individual message, huh?

mmmmmm... 4625 focus...

[marct]

My guess is that your prospecting stanza is awful. You are probably using source time 6 (do not use source time - that will hurt your mat yield). You may not be using terrain spec either (terrain spec is a must).

OK, now I need some help, how can extra time hurt? If I have +20 seconds extracting from a source, shouldn't I pull more mats with the same extract action as you?

Are you saying it allow you to use higher rate and speed, and get to extaract more spots in the same amount of RL time?

Maybe you get:
14 x 3 spots resulting in 42 mats
versus my:
16 x 2 spots resulting in 32 mats?

-or-

Are you saying that with the Time Bonus off, you get more than my 16 or 17 mats that I get with my max time bonus on. BTW, I am lvl 195 Forest, so whatever that bonus is.

Eargerly seeking answers,

Noin.

[geezas]

just thinking here.

3x 17 is more then 2x 19.

The most effecient xp (I think) is to prospect as little and to dig as much spots as you can. 2x 19 gets you a bit more xp but 3x17 is more mats and xp for a prostect that you only need to do one and get 3x the credit for it. it saves a bit of focus and you can even get a nice timing action going when starting with a focus heal, then dig 3 spots, and it pops back again to use after the next prospect.

I'm sure somebody can explain it alot better then me.

[madnak]

With no source time you can use higher stanzas (because the time runs out 30 seconds early you can use more focus per source). Because of that you will gain more mats per second. The experience rate will also be considerably higher. And yes, you should be able to get 3 sources per prospect rather than 2. Also you don't have to worry about prospecting.

Which is better - pulling 17 mats each in 3 60-second sources, or pulling 19 mats each on 2 90-second sources?

51 mats in 3 minutes versus 38 mats in 3 minutes.