Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.

[rushin]

Don't want to involve the guild i'm in with a personal matter, but don't worry, i know how to find you =D

well it's not that difficult i advertise it on every post i make. Make sure you get permission from your mummy to stay up late though.. i imagine its past your bedtime when i am normally playing.

[dazman76]

Give up Lien, my troll indicator is going through the roof

[vutescu]

This on only my oppinion and I don't aspect others to agree with it.

1. Someone have compared harvesters with the workers in a ammo factory or something. Even those workers are civilian and are international conventions regarding civilian killing in a zone of conflict. But if you start acting like in love and war all methods are fair, all the discussions are useless.

2. About PR PK. Are warnings there, indeed, but on the other hand, are some unwritten rules of common curtesy. If you are a harvester in PR and you stop harvesting and equip amps and hp/sap armor each time you see a blue dot in less than 100 m range you can aswell to stop harvesting, because at some point you are not longer harvesting but just guarding a spot. A spot from you did not even extract. And at this point you cant start answering yourself why did you pushed PR harvest to +200 neglecting combat skills.

Looking in this way - as anyone who enters in PR is a potential target - will make PR sooner or later a "select place" where only high levels ele will enter. So you will deny new players the right to enter in PR. Why should they enter if they know they will die?

Again, is only my oppinion.

[kildarin]

Sometimes the best defense is offense

[ilthor]

Killing of unarmed civilians has never been condoned and those caught doing so are constantly prosecuted. Ask the Serbians and Rwandans.

I know you are american, so don't take this personally, but think of the handling of iraqui "war" prisoners, one-sided war declaration (which is forbidden by the UN and was stepped on with the "weaps of massive destruction" excuse) and other abuses, you can see that line fades a bit... Bottom line, all goes in love and war (economical war too, as that was all the iraqui invasion was about *grin*). But i guess we'll never see mr bush sitting at the hague will we?

This is a game, so no real casualties, and therefor war is only fun, at least for me... For example when i was shot down at PR by a mob of Kami people, who were lead to that by some who don't really fancy me, all i did was a quick remark here, even though i am Kami... its war, and i was looking for them as well so can't really complain but for the sheep attitude.

Don't know what im saying anymore lol, but its quite obvious to me this sort of thing happens often, the diference is some people talk others don't, some people have big strenghts behind them, others don't, some people think of this as a game event, others don't...

[alibasil]

This is a game, so no real casualties, and therefor war is only fun, at least for me... For example when i was shot down at PR by a mob of Kami people, who were lead to that by some who don't really fancy me, all i did was a quick remark here, even though i am Kami... its war, and i was looking for them as well so can't really complain but for the sheep attitude.

*COUGH* You are a Kami Supporter, Not a Kami. And the people that hit you were Kami Supporters, not Kami people

Last time i checked you were a zippy little tryker- have you mysteriously morphed?

**Sorry for slightly taking the topic "off-topic" but im starting to get bored with this one**

[xorte]

think about this statement

"PvP PR is where you go to kill and be killed by other players."

If this is true why are there harvest sources there?

solution:
Remove the harvest sources - end of problem

If this is not true, then the area must be for groups of harvesters - so
if offensive action is required its possible to survive better.

An alternative view is the following rules of etiquette and courtesy:

(A) Single harvester in PvP PR should be left alone of told to move or they will get killed.

(B) Groups of harvesters can be attacked but pre-warning and
suggesting to move could be used at the aggressors discretion.

(C) If you are in a PvP area then these rules are only courtesy and
players are quite within their rights to ignore them.

Death in PvP encurs no DP - therefore it's not the same cost as a DP death - so really its not that bad - you just loose a little time. If its malicious i.e. repeat killing of the same people - then you have 2 choices - don't go into PvP or level up, team up, tool up and get some revenge !

[mmatto]

*COUGH* You are a Kami Supporter, Not a Kami. And the people that hit you were Kami Supporters, not Kami people

Nope, I think she did not listen Kami warnings and was hit by 6k damage. Or maybe a bunch of fluffy Kamis came and beat her up. That would be some new content.

[alibasil]

think about this statement

"PvP PR is where you go to kill and be killed by other players."

If this is true why are there harvest sources there?

solution:
Remove the harvest sources - end of problem

If this is not true, then the area must be for groups of harvesters - so
if offensive action is required its possible to survive better.

An alternative view is the following rules of etiquette and courtesy:

(A) Single harvester in PvP PR should be left alone of told to move or they will get killed.

(B) Groups of harvesters can be attacked but pre-warning and
suggesting to move could be used at the aggressors discretion.

(C) If you are in a PvP area then these rules are only courtesy and
players are quite within their rights to ignore them.

Death in PvP encurs no DP - therefore it's not the same cost as a DP death - so really its not that bad - you just loose a little time. If its malicious i.e. repeat killing of the same people - then you have 2 choices - don't go into PvP or level up, team up, tool up and get some revenge !

Ok, what i think about this little part of an overwhelming discussion...

PR has been designed to be tough, and in my opinion it isnt tough enough. Excellent materials should be like gold and diamonds and harder to get, supreme materials should be harder and practically unheard of and the mention of them should get people VERY excited.

Nevrax has introduced PvP in these areas in order to make harvesting in the area harder (in my opinion). When i hear how level 100 homins managed to solo sneak through Under Spring (i know its not PvP but is a good example) it disappoints me because it takes the shine, mystery and the UBER tough image away from Prime Roots.

[rushin]

lol ali

i got through underspring at lv30 and fennec, if u ever met him, came through at lv1. Exploring (sneaking) and harvesting are very different things.. It should be possible to sneak anywhere (and currently is) but i agree 100% that pr is not tough enough. bring back the kinch guardians at the entrances and kp's in umbra and maybe disable tp's inside and activate the ones just outside?
muwhahaha