What would you do....???????

[vinnyq]

if player C refuses to res player A and player B because of the incident, then in the future you have player D teaming with either player A or B, and needed a res from C, so then D is again in C previous situation, who again then decided to not res nor teamed with player, A, B, or C in the future ... then player E came along and teamed with C, and needed a res from D ...

and so on.

Circle of viciousness, eventually you have a whole group of people refusing to team with this or res that person.

Bad deal all around.

I would just forget it and say, all rightee then no biggie, and move on. Then go get myself a cheesecake.

[dazman76]

Cheesecake and beer (although not in the same glass...)

[glipe]

I have a question about the question. The falling out isn't roleplaying, yes? Players A and B have fallen out not as characters but as players? If this is so then, as Player C, I would continue to ask Player A, in Region chat, in character, if he will sacrifice all homins for the sake of his hatred of Player B. If I was his father, or his brother, would he still not heal me? And if this was the case, then I would continue my pleas in Region chat in the hope that a homin worthy of the name is passing nearby.

OOC I would explain Player A in tells that I don't mind gaining the DP if he really doesn't want to rez me but that my character will take insult at this slight and, should the situations ever be reversed, I would continue to play my character and decide at that time what my course of action should be.

Taking into account your second section, if an entire guild of players refused to rez me because of teaming with Player B, I would ask for their reasons. If their reasons were not in character reasons, I would ask them to grow up and play the game. If their reasons were in character reasons, I would ask them to understand that my character would from this point be forced to talk to all his friends in character about the travesty of leaving a vunerable homin to die while others stood around and watched. I would ask if other guilds and groups were going to do something about it. Unless I agreed with the in-character reasons for the fall out, in which case I would have a serious in-character chat with Player B, with my character in all probability becoming distrustful of their character.

Not enough information has been provided. Though some of the facts have been given, without the background to the falling out between A and B there is no way of judging in character whether either is correct. And I don't just play this game as a game, I play it as a character in a game, so without my character having this knowledge, how can I judge I should do?

[caitiff]

For my own part, I recognise it's a game and I play it for fun.

I wouldn't waste my time holding grudges & taking up petty vendettas over something like this issue. Theres no fun in that.

but have you not wasted your time holding a grudge already? Is that not what this post was? Regardless of how you will be in game (I am not saying you will not rez someone in game or whatnot, as I am sure you are a great person and am not trying to attack you) but have you taken the time to make this post? Most people who are on these forums or are active in game (possibly not?) know who you are talking about. This has already been mentioned in the forums and discussed (no need to reference to it as I dont feel more should be dug up, enough is already).

and to answer your question, I would just ignore it.

[gaspode1]

I had intended to leave the matter as closed after my second post but feel I must respond to caitiff.

I can only really say that I truly don't hold a grudge either in game or out of game. Lifes too short. (Yes, I was annoyed at the time but that's human nature and was why I reflected on the matter before posting the next day.) In principle, I'll team with Guild/Player(s) A or with Player B & I'll go and have a beer in the pub with them after, if they live near me.

I don't read all the BB posts and hadn't seen this issue aired before - at least not in the approach I decided to take.

I had two main reasons for making the initial post.

The first was simply to make people THINK about what they do in game and why they do it, so they can consider whether there is a better or, at least, a slightly different approach that they should take. (If they are comfortable with their stance then I wouldn't go any further in trying to change it. People can agree to differ on certain issues but still work together for common general advancement).

The other is that I recognise that I am far from perfect and wondered if someone would come up with any useful thoughts that I hadn't had. Several people did & I believe I've benefited from that.

One person suggested writing to the Guild leader - something that simply didn't cross my mind. However, having thought about that one I still prefer my approach via BB. I don't think it is for me to start delving into the why's and wherefore's of this specific situation. I wanted to air it as a more general discussion. In this specific situation, for instance, I don't actually know if it is Guild A falling out with Player B or just a small group of players in Guild A who have fallen out with Player B. Frankly, I don't even want to know - it's their business - I just want to get on with enjoying a brilliant game.

In passing I have to say I thought Varelse's post summed it up very well. As it happens, I have spoken directly in-game with the Guild Leader of the Guild involved and also had peripheral dealings with him on 2 other occasions. I have, indeed, found him as Varelse describes (and I don't doubt other members of Guild A are as well) just as I found Player B to be a good guy who was very patient with my mistakes when I teamed with him and who gave me some great tips and advice.

The only reason I would distance myself from Guild A is that I could see myself possibly being put in an difficult position and I wouldn't want it to happen. Suppose I team with Player A & we come across Player B dead on the ground. I would be honour bound to res him. I have no way of knowing whether Player A is big enough to accept that or whether that would lead to more falling out - which I would not want.

[hunter17]

Is this a trick question Simply put... a +b=c C is yoru answer

Actually its A2+B2=C2

[final60]

I never team with people that could have a dispute with someone else.

Besides of that I never expect anyone to rez me. If they do fine, if they don't no matter either. So despute or not, if I let my team die its my own damn fault and I have to live with it.

Well put, people shouldn't expect a rez when they die and they should think it a bonus if they do.

[omsop]

well if anyone doesnt know, i was player A who was teamed with player B,
I Dont have an issue with Player C or his Guild, but they have an issue with me ( a 3 or 4 month old issue, something that was over the days after it happened as far as i was concerned ),
I did not expect to get a Rez, but i didnt expect my team mate to be refused simply cause of Player C's attitude towards me.
Yes it is a game, but it is also a fact, that we all have friends that are not liked by some, so what happens here? no-one ever Rez's anyone cause they might not like one person, thats just plain Silly in my opinion,
& for the record, although Player C or his Guild do not like me it would not stop me from rez'ing them if they really needed it, i might not like how some people act in the game, but it is a game & everyone should have at least a little help when it is possible, oh & there is ppl i really cant stand in the game & i have not spoke to for over 5 months, but i HAVE still rez'd them when they needed it. ( i am sure they rather get something for their time & effort rather than clear DP, lol, imagine how high your lvl's would be if you never had all the DP you ever got, so 1 rez now & again does help )
You dont have to like someone to Rez them, just hit with heal & walk away, you dont even have to talk to them.

btw, i cant be ass'd reading back through all the posts, but rez'ing someone you dont like or cause they dont like you & then gloating about it is wrong, things will only get worse by doing that. ( my opinion ).

[xorte]

I would challenge all the players from the gloating side one by one to a duel.

Each time I kill them and they are lying face down in the dirt I'll ask if they would like to be rezed. Its their choice.

The honourable way would be for them to agree to the duel and then apologize for their earlier actions or resp after being slain and that would satisfy me.

The un-honourable way would be to not agree to fight or to fight and die and then beg for a rez.

Even if I lost every fight - I'd know that my honour was still intact.

Xorte the honourable

[amitst]

What race were they?
You forgot the most important point.... rascism.