Just now I went to the roots for a quick session of digging. When I just had finished my second source, Savior ran up to me, out of the blue and killed me. I didn't even see him, he didn't give any warning at all. In the screenshot you can clearly see there is no warning, actually no conversation at all before or even after he killed me. He wasn't digging near me, I didn't even knew he was in the area.
So, this makes Savior ****listed, and I politely ask the community not to tolerate random pk of prime root harvesters (actually any random pk). So, I ask, if you meet him and you dare to face him, feel free to kill him in a pvp area.
Screenshot: http://doa.crimen.be/screenshots/screenshot206.jpg
*EDIT* *** Slightly edited my request to the community ***
Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
Last edited by mrozzy on Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
humpf wouldnt be happy either 
Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
I have sacrificed one slot on my PR harvesting page for Magic protection aura...
Mikos, Abyss Eye
Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
First time i met him in PR, he rez me 
Don't know him well tho.
Don't know him well tho.Only the righteous prevail!
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Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
I don't know you or him, so I reserve judgement. unless this was just a message to your friends... I see this falling on unsympathetic ears.
Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
Allow me to be the devil's advocate.
You were harvesting in a PvP area and a player killed you?
"Oh, boo-hoo. Now I feel really bad. Bad llama." - Kuzco
If you don't want to be killed by players, don't go to an PvP area. If you have to go there accept what happens.
Do you expect aggro mobs not to kill you? No? Why shouldn't players in PvP if they want to.
If it was one attack, don't pull about the 'old grief bunny' out of the hat.
For those just tuning in, there have been several requests for harvesters to be left alone in PvP/PR areas.
Some have agreed to this, others haven't.
Don't presume to be safe just because some say they won't attack you.
<end devil's advocate>
I reserve my personal remarks and judgement untill both sides have spoken.
You were harvesting in a PvP area and a player killed you?
"Oh, boo-hoo. Now I feel really bad. Bad llama." - Kuzco
If you don't want to be killed by players, don't go to an PvP area. If you have to go there accept what happens.
Do you expect aggro mobs not to kill you? No? Why shouldn't players in PvP if they want to.
If it was one attack, don't pull about the 'old grief bunny' out of the hat.
For those just tuning in, there have been several requests for harvesters to be left alone in PvP/PR areas.
Some have agreed to this, others haven't.
Don't presume to be safe just because some say they won't attack you.
<end devil's advocate>
I reserve my personal remarks and judgement untill both sides have spoken.
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Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
It should also be noted that in the PvP/GvG areas of the Roots & Nexus that ALL players are classed as 'enemies' with regard to the targeting system.
This includes (AFAIK) Team members and guild members.
From whats been said so far, the guy could have been hunting and done it by accident.
I have had a number of incidents with hitting or kill friends, in the roots. As they knew me and the type of player I am that these were accidents, I am sure a stranger might struggle to believe it was accidental.
Also I don't believe you get DP if you are killed in the Roots by a player, so hopefully all you lost we some mats and some time.
Nicely handled thread by the way, a pleasure to read on such a sensitive subject.
This includes (AFAIK) Team members and guild members.
From whats been said so far, the guy could have been hunting and done it by accident.
I have had a number of incidents with hitting or kill friends, in the roots. As they knew me and the type of player I am that these were accidents, I am sure a stranger might struggle to believe it was accidental.
Also I don't believe you get DP if you are killed in the Roots by a player, so hopefully all you lost we some mats and some time.
Nicely handled thread by the way, a pleasure to read on such a sensitive subject.
Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
hehe. Magik1 has some fine points. Although put a little harsh.
There are 2 sides to this - and there can be no "wrong" nor "right".
1)What happened is indeed a fiendish act - very nasty- and uncalled for.
2)It is an act of roleplaying. Or an act of PR mats preservation - stop others from crafting with those mats and you can sell yours so much more expensively.
To be honest, I would not be happy if it happned to me. But to be fair also - if it did happen to me I would feel the thrill that I could have revenge and enjoy the coming of battle.
I dont think asking everyone to put him on a black list is a clever idea though. Because in this case there is clearly no right or wrong - just ones perseption of how the game is too be played.
So instead of worrying so much - just get revenege. I know I would enjoy it in my own personal opinion.
There are 2 sides to this - and there can be no "wrong" nor "right".
1)What happened is indeed a fiendish act - very nasty- and uncalled for.
2)It is an act of roleplaying. Or an act of PR mats preservation - stop others from crafting with those mats and you can sell yours so much more expensively.
To be honest, I would not be happy if it happned to me. But to be fair also - if it did happen to me I would feel the thrill that I could have revenge and enjoy the coming of battle.
I dont think asking everyone to put him on a black list is a clever idea though. Because in this case there is clearly no right or wrong - just ones perseption of how the game is too be played.
So instead of worrying so much - just get revenege. I know I would enjoy it in my own personal opinion.
Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
Nice try Neun
I believe Savior hardly gets any xp by nuking mobs at Elusive Forest and even if he did I find unlikely that he goes solo hunting in PR...
Also, you might accidentally mistarget and even kill in hectic team or multiteam situation in PvP zone (e.g. trip). I do not find likely that you mistarget a lonely digger while solo hunting and kill her with multiple nukes, lol
Do I remember correctly Neun being AoA member himself or member of an allied guild...
My experiences with AoA PR diggers have been positive and they have been friendly and helpful. I think I have received more heals than nukes from them
Do we see here a bored AoD going after PR diggers? This has been expected for some time now.
Random harvester PKers end up into my nohelp list, but I do not know if this case was actually random. Or what may have been other party's motive or intentions.
I believe Savior hardly gets any xp by nuking mobs at Elusive Forest and even if he did I find unlikely that he goes solo hunting in PR...
Also, you might accidentally mistarget and even kill in hectic team or multiteam situation in PvP zone (e.g. trip). I do not find likely that you mistarget a lonely digger while solo hunting and kill her with multiple nukes, lol
Do I remember correctly Neun being AoA member himself or member of an allied guild...
My experiences with AoA PR diggers have been positive and they have been friendly and helpful. I think I have received more heals than nukes from them
Do we see here a bored AoD going after PR diggers? This has been expected for some time now.
Random harvester PKers end up into my nohelp list, but I do not know if this case was actually random. Or what may have been other party's motive or intentions.
Mikos, Abyss Eye
Re: Random pk in the roots by Savior, feel free to return the favour.
mmatto wrote:Random harvester PKers end up into my nohelp list, but I do not know if this case was actually random. Or what may have been other party's motive or intentions.
As you know I wasn't defending anyone here, more of an awareness post
No Help list - excellent method of dealing with the situation. Don't forget to take him/her off at some point in the future.
To forgive is divine!
(I even take my 'annoying' customers off my ingore list at some point and they have to do a lot worse than kill me once in the roots)