Just started 14 day trial. Played a day or two -- was easily able to harvest.
Today I log in -- every node right in the starter area is blowing up and almost killing me. I spent some points in the heart and anti acid counters, but it is just burning through the time clock now.
Was there some harvesting nerf here??
Newbie -- They change harvesting?
Re: Newbie -- They change harvesting?
I don't think anything in the game mechanics changed. What probably changed is your extraction skill.gichin13 wrote:Just started 14 day trial. Played a day or two -- was easily able to harvest.
Today I log in -- every node right in the starter area is blowing up and almost killing me. I spent some points in the heart and anti acid counters, but it is just burning through the time clock now.
Was there some harvesting nerf here??
An extraction skill has 3 basic parts to it, a Speed stanza, a Rate stanza, and a Quality stanza. The speed controls how quickly each extraction action goes, the rate controls how bit the quality/quantity steps for each extraction action, and the quality determines the max quality you can pull.
Each of these three stanzas come in both "harmful" and "gentle" types. The gentle types cost more focus to use but will not kill/blow-up the source as quickly.
The default extraction you get when you start is harmful speed 1+harmful rate 1+harmful quality 10. If you've upgraded one of these (like to harmful quality 20), that could explain why you're killing sources quicker.
Try training in the gentle forms of the different stanzas ("gentle extraction with rate 1.0", "gentle extraction with speed 1.0", etc.) and compare the gentle and harmful extractions. A big part of harvesting is balancing out harmful and gentle to get the most mats without destroying the source.
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Re: Newbie -- They change harvesting?
Sources dont start exploding or releasing gas until you reach lvl 10 harvest. After that they will if the explosion bar (on the sourcer meter) reaches 0 while you are extracting.
Re: Newbie -- They change harvesting?
I think that is the answer. I was like, man it was easy and now it is really hard!ozric wrote:Sources dont start exploding or releasing gas until you reach lvl 10 harvest. After that they will if the explosion bar (on the sourcer meter) reaches 0 while you are extracting.
I took the skills to counter the heart symbol and the yellow one ... have not been able to harvest a single thing since. Guess I need to read up some ...
Thanks for the input all!
Re: Newbie -- They change harvesting?
Invest in gentle methods, they really do make a difference.
Also, buy the 'care' actions and use them every time the 'Source Life' or the 'Risk' bar drops below the 'Time' bar.
Contact Arrya in game for more direct help.
Also, buy the 'care' actions and use them every time the 'Source Life' or the 'Risk' bar drops below the 'Time' bar.
Contact Arrya in game for more direct help.

Re: Newbie -- They change harvesting?
also, the season has changed, and look out for weather.
Everything gets much harder in Autumn and Winter. Rainy and Thunderous weather will also affect spots, different mats are affected differently.
If you look at your "Sysinfo" chat you will also see a message when you start harvesting the spot saying "...the mode is x"
where x is a number from 1-5, the mode gives a hint on how the spot will behave, if it susceptible to blowing or producing a gass cloud. Also whatch the life (heart) and explosion (yelow thingy) if they get to low, abort the extraction action by either sitting down or taking a couple of steps back, (its better to lose a mat, than to gain a DP). If you have enough Focus to burn invest in armor, but be adviced that medium and heavy armor gives you a penalty, ie you will use more Focus, and in the long run is usually not worth it.
Everything gets much harder in Autumn and Winter. Rainy and Thunderous weather will also affect spots, different mats are affected differently.
If you look at your "Sysinfo" chat you will also see a message when you start harvesting the spot saying "...the mode is x"
where x is a number from 1-5, the mode gives a hint on how the spot will behave, if it susceptible to blowing or producing a gass cloud. Also whatch the life (heart) and explosion (yelow thingy) if they get to low, abort the extraction action by either sitting down or taking a couple of steps back, (its better to lose a mat, than to gain a DP). If you have enough Focus to burn invest in armor, but be adviced that medium and heavy armor gives you a penalty, ie you will use more Focus, and in the long run is usually not worth it.
Re: Newbie -- They change harvesting?
Edit: It was first thing in the morning and I swear I read the other posts... but as you see it didn't help me not repeat everything =/
From level 1 through level 9, you get source modes that otherwise do not exist. Source modes like 14, etc. The junior digger will be very happy with his digging results at these levels. Once you reach level 10, you have been initiated, and are greeted by the real-world of Digging!!! There are 6 source modes you will come to love. They are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Each is different in degrading charactersitics or 'Source Life' and 'Source Risk' as you dig, as well as the resultant effect if you are unlucky (or brave) enough to allow the 'Source Risk' to run out.
Enjoy your new challenge. There are several NA threads on Source mode. Throw a search. Also found in the player guides section.
From level 1 through level 9, you get source modes that otherwise do not exist. Source modes like 14, etc. The junior digger will be very happy with his digging results at these levels. Once you reach level 10, you have been initiated, and are greeted by the real-world of Digging!!! There are 6 source modes you will come to love. They are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Each is different in degrading charactersitics or 'Source Life' and 'Source Risk' as you dig, as well as the resultant effect if you are unlucky (or brave) enough to allow the 'Source Risk' to run out.
Enjoy your new challenge. There are several NA threads on Source mode. Throw a search. Also found in the player guides section.
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