Exactly micrix,
maybe i am crazy, maybe i dont want your help, but its my live, my account and my decision.
Maybe i dont like many ppl of the community, maybe i dont like anybody here, maybe i hate everybody, you all... think what you want...
You will never know the true, and i will never tell it.
Some Ppl know it, they are *i dont know you know the word* "friends".
A good communiuty is the most important thing and i think i ve found it now.
And it hasnt to do anything with my Ele-Level, but i think it's a really problem of the problem.
Gamemaster?!?
Re: Gamemaster?!?
There are some interesting points in this thread, and here are my thoughts on them:
1) Exploits - there are two perspectives - firstly if a mob cannot cause you damage yet you can kill it - then i agree its an exploit. And from my perspective some places look like they are exploits but actually when you nuke a mob it runs out of range in an attempt to reach you. So in theory its impossible to kill it and therefore not an exploit. As soon as you see this then whats the point in contunuing to try - as its clearly not possible to kill it or if by some means and it gets stuck in a location you can hit it - then its clearly an exploit - so you can just stop and remember not to do that again.
The seconds perspective is - how do you know something is an exploit? Well its pretty obvious once you've discovered the points I made above. But to discover them you have to try. So if yo dont know about an exploit and you try and you realise and someone was watching you and you get reported then you might not be too pleased. So I'd suggest if you see someone exploiting that you ask them if they know what they are doing is an exploit to give them the benefit of the doubt - then you can give them a link to a place on the Ryzom website that explains what an exploit is. (if there is one !)
2) Mages and Stingas/Plants
Mages find Stingas excellent for levelling up on. Because they don't move and there are lots of them. But from my perspective it is completely dufferent from killing a shalah from a cliff, becuase the Stinga has a 150m range and hurls spells at you which hurt ! Also they are social so they can be quite nasty if you get a couple of them hitting you.
3) Mages verus Melee
Im a high level Mage and as far as I can see there is nothing uber about it. I can still be killed by anything that gives me over 2k xp and if its got legs then im in trouble if soloing. If I have a healer yes I feel more confident but thats the same as a Melee with a healer. In my opinion being a high level Melee is just as powerful as a high level Mage - seeing as a good Melee can stand toe to toe with a mob and take much less damage due to good armour. A mage no matter their level would get wiped out pretty quick. The only large difference is the amount of damage a Mage can do - yes I do 2k worth of damage - but to a mob that gives me good xp - it usually never gives the full damage - sometimes only half plus resists and reflects. Now I have seen Melee players doing damage of over 1k at high levels and I suspect it goes much higher. Now to be a high level Mage and a high level Melee would really be Uber.
4) Player Hate
There's always someone who doesnt get on with other people and upsets them and gets upset by others. This is life. I'm sure alot of us remember a certain Master of Life who went through a similar 'Im obnoxious and everyone hates me' period, but his beef was more with players than with the GM's.
Basically, if you behave in a way that makes people dislike you or cause problems for others and are rude and impatient - then you can imagine the kind of reaction you will get from other people. Whether this be in a game or in real life.
So if you are one of these players that is hated or think themselves hated - then stop and think for a moment - why am I hated? and then think about your actions beforehand - "I want Xorte to like me - shall I steal his mob, kill him in PvP zone while he is harvesting and then swear at him? or shall I ask how his day his going and perhaps if he'd like to team?" - hmm I wonder which option will achieve this goal? Oh I see its number 2 - yes I'll do that then
5) Lag
When you have lag - make a note of the time, location, your actions, and who else is affected. Everytime you suffer lag and you are the only one affected then the lag is more localized to you. If you find 90% of your lag is localized to you - then you have a starting point for investigation. If yo find 90% of the lag is experienced by 90% of the people you ask - then raise a ticket with the notes you made - as it's certainly a wider issue.
This is how to get something done about the lag in a constructive way. Why is this? - Your friend phones you up, he just bought Ryzom and want s to play it, but his computer wont work. He asks you for help. You say to your friend "Tell me exactly what is happening" and he replies - "um it doesnt work" - how are you to help him? This is how the Devs feel when you report lag and dont explain exactly what is happening.
Anyway thats my 2 pennies
Xorte
1) Exploits - there are two perspectives - firstly if a mob cannot cause you damage yet you can kill it - then i agree its an exploit. And from my perspective some places look like they are exploits but actually when you nuke a mob it runs out of range in an attempt to reach you. So in theory its impossible to kill it and therefore not an exploit. As soon as you see this then whats the point in contunuing to try - as its clearly not possible to kill it or if by some means and it gets stuck in a location you can hit it - then its clearly an exploit - so you can just stop and remember not to do that again.
The seconds perspective is - how do you know something is an exploit? Well its pretty obvious once you've discovered the points I made above. But to discover them you have to try. So if yo dont know about an exploit and you try and you realise and someone was watching you and you get reported then you might not be too pleased. So I'd suggest if you see someone exploiting that you ask them if they know what they are doing is an exploit to give them the benefit of the doubt - then you can give them a link to a place on the Ryzom website that explains what an exploit is. (if there is one !)
2) Mages and Stingas/Plants
Mages find Stingas excellent for levelling up on. Because they don't move and there are lots of them. But from my perspective it is completely dufferent from killing a shalah from a cliff, becuase the Stinga has a 150m range and hurls spells at you which hurt ! Also they are social so they can be quite nasty if you get a couple of them hitting you.
3) Mages verus Melee
Im a high level Mage and as far as I can see there is nothing uber about it. I can still be killed by anything that gives me over 2k xp and if its got legs then im in trouble if soloing. If I have a healer yes I feel more confident but thats the same as a Melee with a healer. In my opinion being a high level Melee is just as powerful as a high level Mage - seeing as a good Melee can stand toe to toe with a mob and take much less damage due to good armour. A mage no matter their level would get wiped out pretty quick. The only large difference is the amount of damage a Mage can do - yes I do 2k worth of damage - but to a mob that gives me good xp - it usually never gives the full damage - sometimes only half plus resists and reflects. Now I have seen Melee players doing damage of over 1k at high levels and I suspect it goes much higher. Now to be a high level Mage and a high level Melee would really be Uber.
4) Player Hate
There's always someone who doesnt get on with other people and upsets them and gets upset by others. This is life. I'm sure alot of us remember a certain Master of Life who went through a similar 'Im obnoxious and everyone hates me' period, but his beef was more with players than with the GM's.
Basically, if you behave in a way that makes people dislike you or cause problems for others and are rude and impatient - then you can imagine the kind of reaction you will get from other people. Whether this be in a game or in real life.
So if you are one of these players that is hated or think themselves hated - then stop and think for a moment - why am I hated? and then think about your actions beforehand - "I want Xorte to like me - shall I steal his mob, kill him in PvP zone while he is harvesting and then swear at him? or shall I ask how his day his going and perhaps if he'd like to team?" - hmm I wonder which option will achieve this goal? Oh I see its number 2 - yes I'll do that then
5) Lag
When you have lag - make a note of the time, location, your actions, and who else is affected. Everytime you suffer lag and you are the only one affected then the lag is more localized to you. If you find 90% of your lag is localized to you - then you have a starting point for investigation. If yo find 90% of the lag is experienced by 90% of the people you ask - then raise a ticket with the notes you made - as it's certainly a wider issue.
This is how to get something done about the lag in a constructive way. Why is this? - Your friend phones you up, he just bought Ryzom and want s to play it, but his computer wont work. He asks you for help. You say to your friend "Tell me exactly what is happening" and he replies - "um it doesnt work" - how are you to help him? This is how the Devs feel when you report lag and dont explain exactly what is happening.
Anyway thats my 2 pennies
Xorte
Xorte
Order of The Nameless
English European Community
Order of The Nameless
English European Community
Re: Gamemaster?!?
micrix wrote:Und du fragst dich warum dich alle hassen ? Du bis das Paradebeispiel eines Opportunisten. Wenn das eine **** community ist, was haelt dich hier ?
Du legst es doch gezielt darauf an jedem gegen das Schienbein zu treten. Laut GM proletest du im Klient rum. Viele Spieler hier haben versucht auf dich einzugehen, aber was tuts du ?
Du schaltest auf stur. Dich interessiert *nur* dein beschi**enes Elematarlevel und hast deine ***** Befriedigung andere bloed anzumachen. Bist du so kaputt oder machts dir einfach nur Spass ?
Ok, mach weiter so. Das wird dir bald langweilig werden und dann ziehst du weiter um Spieler auf anderen Servern zu nerven.
Du tust mir aufrichtig leid !!
Psylo, darf ich Sie fragen nur English zu sprechen? Wir sind in einer Community mit einige Deutsche Homins und viele Englischer, Niederländer, Spänischer, Franken, Hongären und mehr. Wehn jemand Sie so sehr bose macht das Sie allein Deutsch sprechen kunnt, viellicht keine spreche ist besser(?)?
And now my favorite German word:
Habseilichkeiten. My appartment is stuffed with this
Translated a bit (not very good at german):
micrix wrote:And you ask why all hate you? You are a good example of an opportunist. If this is a **** community, why are you here?
You [whine] and blame other people for kicking your shins. Loud GM-protests you post in Klients. Many players here asked you to relax a bit, but what do you do?
You shout even more(?). You are only interested in 7331 Elemental lvls and you find no satisfaction in any other form of play. Or you that deranged or are you really enjoyed by this?
Okee, whatever you wish. You will grow boring and then might move on to annoy people on other server.
You are really dissappointing me !!
Frydeswinde
Evolution member.
Founder of the Yubo Liberation Front.
Suspected long lost sister of Neun.
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Evolution member.
Founder of the Yubo Liberation Front.
Suspected long lost sister of Neun.
Ryzom Wiki
MMO's: If I wanted to play with myself, I would grab a magazine and a box of tissues.
Re: Gamemaster?!?
hans1976 wrote:Psylo, darf ich Sie fragen nur English zu sprechen? Wir sind in einer Community mit einige Deutsche Homins und viele Englischer, Niederländer, Spänischer, Franken, Hongären und mehr. Wehn jemand Sie so sehr bose macht das Sie allein Deutsch sprechen kunnt, viellicht keine spreche ist besser(?)?
And now my favorite German word:
Habseilichkeiten. My appartment is stuffed with this
Translated a bit (not very good at german):
sure. was my very last german post ! Your translation is not bad but does not show in detail what i said. This was it why i posted in german. To say *exactly* what i mean.
Her is my favorit dutch: verhuisopdracht and vriwaringsverklaring. Man, dont you break your toungues pronouncing this oh, well i forgot one more easy sentence:
Twej heineken !!
Psylo - Tryker and Homin
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Re: Gamemaster?!?
micrix wrote:sure. was my very last german post ! Your translation is not bad but does not show in detail what i said. This was it why i posted in german. To say *exactly* what i mean.
But most of us did not get exactly what you tried to say. Sounded quite rude
Mikos, Abyss Eye
Re: Gamemaster?!?
What I have seen lately, is Angels of Atys and Elementals of Atys members killing the zorai bandit boss who was standing on the cliff while they were down the cliff, so the bandit boss's melee friends couldn't attack them (only the ones using magic). I don't like this, because our team was trying to kill him too, but without exploiting the cliff, and we even got dp, they didn't, they just killed the boss from down the cliff and stole our fun.
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Re: Gamemaster?!?
kaetemi wrote:What I have seen lately, is Angels of Atys and Elementals of Atys members killing the zorai bandit boss..
Especially seeing them to arrive after we had been fighting long time against invulnerable bugged Disciples that required AI server restart to fix.
And after clearing resulting dp, having a personal honor of meeting an EoA member at Yrkanis stables bragging about how he has now 2 boss armors.
Well, some homins enjoy strange ways of having fun... Maybe they get bored soon.
Mikos, Abyss Eye
Re: Gamemaster?!?
mmatto wrote:Especially seeing them to arrive after we had been fighting long time against invulnerable bugged Disciples that required AI server restart to fix.
And after clearing resulting dp, having a personal honor of meeting an EoA member at Yrkanis stables bragging about how he has now 2 boss armors.
Well, some homins enjoy strange ways of having fun... Maybe they get bored soon.
I guess that game design will not allow to put those bosses into an instance. But i could think abuot something that boss only drops when first and last hit came form the same team.
Psylo - Tryker and Homin
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Re: Gamemaster?!?
mmatto wrote:But most of us did not get exactly what you tried to say. Sounded quite rude
Not rude. Maybe sharp straight, not more. May another german player judge this..
Psylo - Tryker and Homin
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Re: Gamemaster?!?
german player here
first an exact translation:
first an exact translation:
and now my opinion: harsh, but honest. until now i've decided not to take part directly here, but it seems micrix has more balls than i have when it comes to speaking his mind and i can only agree to what he has said.micrix wrote:And you wonder why everyone hates you? You are the perfect example of an opportunist. If this really is a **** community, what's keeping you here?
Everything you do is being done with the express purpose of kicking them against the shin.(german proverb for causing people unnecessary distress) According to GMs you have been rednecking in Klients.(been showing very poor behaviour) Many players have tried to respond to your problems and help you, but what do you do?
You slip into a single-minded state of mind.(soudns bad, but is the most accurate :/) You're *only* interested in your ****ing elementary level and gain satisfaction from talking aggressively to others. Are you that broken/crazy or is that fun for you?
Well, go on like that. It'll soon become boring and then you'll move elsewhere to annoy players on other servers.
I honestly pity you!!
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