Plain and simply, Cerest couldn't just walk over to a dev and ask them a question, Xavier can. Can you not understand that simple difference?tetra wrote:Cerest and the rest of the GM's sent stuff to Nevrax.
Cerest and company posted things direct from Nevrax.
do you think they just sent things to support@nevrax.com and hoped someone read it? Xavier tells us in his own hello post that we still need to have everything go through Cerest and the rest of the support staff... nothing has changed except "someone at nevrax" is now "Xavier".![]()
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How do you know that?aylwyne wrote:Plain and simply, Cerest couldn't just walk over to a dev and ask them a question, Xavier can. Can you not understand that simple difference?
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a lot has changed since any information that comes to us now through him will not go through the pr people who were responsible for the earlier patch notes, those where you sometimes wondered where they learned english and if they played the game at all
also, he does not simply say "we reviewed things" he says "things were going wrong and we fixed them by doing xxx" which is a big change imho
also, he does not simply say "we reviewed things" he says "things were going wrong and we fixed them by doing xxx" which is a big change imho
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Re: I don't want to be rude... but...
Hmm, common sense. I know Cerest is pretty powerful but I don't think she could walk on water. And even if she could pull it off, it's one hell of a long walk across that pond.jackmor wrote:How do you know that?
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Re: I don't want to be rude... but...
Now your just being silly. I wanted to know how you knew that a simple phone call or an E chat could not be made. Of coarse thats what would have had to happen to talk to the liason.aylwyne wrote:Hmm, common sense. I know Cerest is pretty powerful but I don't think she could walk on water. And even if she could pull it off, it's one hell of a long walk across that pond.
Re: I don't want to be rude... but...
If you've ever worked in a distributed work environment where you're forced to communicate via phone and email, you know that it's a night and day difference from being in the same room with the person.jackmor wrote:Now your just being silly. I wanted to know how you knew that a simple phone call or an E chat could not be made.
SO much information is exchanged in an office outside of formal communication channels of phone, email, and fax. If you're forced to only use these methods, you simply do not get the same depth of information as someone that is sitting there with the other person. You don't get the "water cooler" conversations or the chance to go to lunch with the team.
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That's funny... if it was such a simple task, you would think that we would have some answers to those 2+ week old question and answer threads, or maybe something more than comments about how more articles were coming soon.aylwyne wrote:Plain and simply, Cerest couldn't just walk over to a dev and ask them a question, Xavier can. Can you not understand that simple difference?
I haven't seen anything to give any indication that things have changed at all.... plus, everything is STILL going through cerest. All that has changed is that Cerest relays information to Xavier instead of an unnamed person at Nevrax.
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I consider these recent posts of Xavier's as the opening talks working towards giving us answers. My personal experience is that two weeks is a short time turn around for a business. And now, having said what I hope is encouraging words to Nevrax et al, I will post no more in this thread.
It would be like scratching a chigger bite....
It would be like scratching a chigger bite....
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Re: I don't want to be rude... but...
Yeah but you like it when people talk about relieving themselves in cereal.danadita wrote:I consider these recent posts of Xavier's as the opening talks working towards giving us answers. My personal experience is that two weeks is a short time turn around for a business. And now, having said what I hope is encouraging words to Nevrax et al, I will post no more in this thread.
It would be like scratching a chigger bite....
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Well said, GrimJim!
So you not responding any more to this thread is probly for the best.
Re: I don't want to be rude... but...
I think Xavier is being a bit "safe" but then, he JUST got the job, so...makes sense he would like to keep it...I know I would like to keep my job too. BUT, he is new, he is being MUCH more up front and honest, and his grasp of English doesn't SEEM to involve Babelfish or his 6th grade kids. And I honestly think that three DAYS is a heck of a short period of time for coming up with an info post ALMOST as long as my novelettes
...I mean more verbose posts *clears throat*
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I have to say that the communication lines that are now open are MUCH better than most games I have tested or played before, at least they make sense, are in English that would pass a gramar test, and show a level of respect of the player, both our wants/needs in the game and our level of intellegence (ever read some of the info posts over at Sony/Verant?? you would think Sony/Verant thought ALL of its players were either on drugs or in a coma or both!), and the info at Horizon's sites are after the fact and too little too late or nothing at all.
If you think the list of Ryzom box promises that aren't in game is long...try reading the Horizons box and play the game...the list of lies Horizons fed testers and players is long enough to reach all the way from one coast to the other...single spaced. And Horizons is still not combat ready...about a YEAR post release, not to mention the exodus from that game (points to self) yep, I betaed it, played it and LEFT (60 mason, 35 Ranger Why do I always end up in the red headed step children classes in games?...WHY?!)
Xavier, take everything you read with a grain of salt, and don't take it to heart. Some of us are a bit bitter about how patch one went and some of us are a bit impatient on content. And I am still waiting for an Invisability spell or other agro reducing skill so I can explore without repeatedly becoming some Kitin's LUNCH.
I appreciate what you are doing, and trying to do. As long as we know that what we say/post/ticket gets from the hands of the person that answers email into the hands of a dev or set of devs...I know I will be happy, and I figure that I won't be alone.


I have to say that the communication lines that are now open are MUCH better than most games I have tested or played before, at least they make sense, are in English that would pass a gramar test, and show a level of respect of the player, both our wants/needs in the game and our level of intellegence (ever read some of the info posts over at Sony/Verant?? you would think Sony/Verant thought ALL of its players were either on drugs or in a coma or both!), and the info at Horizon's sites are after the fact and too little too late or nothing at all.
If you think the list of Ryzom box promises that aren't in game is long...try reading the Horizons box and play the game...the list of lies Horizons fed testers and players is long enough to reach all the way from one coast to the other...single spaced. And Horizons is still not combat ready...about a YEAR post release, not to mention the exodus from that game (points to self) yep, I betaed it, played it and LEFT (60 mason, 35 Ranger Why do I always end up in the red headed step children classes in games?...WHY?!)
Xavier, take everything you read with a grain of salt, and don't take it to heart. Some of us are a bit bitter about how patch one went and some of us are a bit impatient on content. And I am still waiting for an Invisability spell or other agro reducing skill so I can explore without repeatedly becoming some Kitin's LUNCH.

I appreciate what you are doing, and trying to do. As long as we know that what we say/post/ticket gets from the hands of the person that answers email into the hands of a dev or set of devs...I know I will be happy, and I figure that I won't be alone.