rewen wrote:Remember that modify the "client.cfg" is forbidden.
I have seen no such comment from either you, or any other moderators on these forums. Even though the topic has repeatedly come up, where users talk about modifying the client.cfg to adjust zoom levels.
Furthermore, I'd like to point out, as I did in the other thread:
jfoxp wrote:You do know that you *have* to manually edit the client.cfg if you have a 16:9 screen, right? It's the only way to adjust for it, as the setting isn't available in the graphics options either in game, or from the config shortcut.
Would be nice to either get the things we aren't allowed to modify encrypted or otherwise removed from the confg, or get the things that we can ONLY modify in the config (such as setting 1.7777 for 16:9) added to the graphics options.
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Orleron on Avlis.org wrote:You have to excuse Themi. Tact, diplomacy, and softness are not his best traits, but he does not mean anything by his writing. He's a nice guy. You just get used to it after a while because he doesn't seem to learn.
from multiple GMs I have been told that the GMs cannot tell anyone to modify or any information regarding any of the client.cfg settings. However that doesn't stop players from modifying it on their own or exchanging info about the client.cfg on their own.
Point in case: client.cfg must be modified to play the game effectively in linux.
So, in summation...nothing is stopping you from modifying the client.cfg other than the fact that you're on your own if you mess something up. They won't offer support for you. :0)
grandma wrote:from multiple GMs I have been told that the GMs cannot tell anyone to modify or any information regarding any of the client.cfg settings. However that doesn't stop players from modifying it on their own or exchanging info about the client.cfg on their own.
Point in case: client.cfg must be modified to play the game effectively in linux.
So, in summation...nothing is stopping you from modifying the client.cfg other than the fact that you're on your own if you mess something up. They won't offer support for you. :0)
Aye, but in most games, "forbidden" means you could get banned for doing so. That's why I'm curious why one community moderator would say this, but ours hasn't commented at all.
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Orleron on Avlis.org wrote:You have to excuse Themi. Tact, diplomacy, and softness are not his best traits, but he does not mean anything by his writing. He's a nice guy. You just get used to it after a while because he doesn't seem to learn.
jfoxp wrote:Aye, but in most games, "forbidden" means you could get banned for doing so. That's why I'm curious why one community moderator would say this, but ours hasn't commented at all.
they aren't going to touch your question with a 10 foot pole because it's not something that they will support. There is nothing wrong with editing the cfg file aside from the fact that you could break something if you screw it up. As has already been mentioned, there are quite a few things that can only be adjusted by editing the cfg files and there are so many better ways to spend dev time than by trying to make an uber complex config screen with every single option in it.
"Forbidden" in this case is just as Grandma (GFunk) explained. If a player decides he /has/ to alter the .cfg file, or merely wants to, we are under no obligation to offer support as this has altered the intended state of the game, and is a violation of the EULA. Will you get banned? That will be on a case by case basis.
I actually have commented on this before around the first of the year saying pretty much the same thing...
tetra wrote:There is nothing wrong with editing the cfg file aside from the fact that you could break something if you screw it up.
The Zoom cheat (?) isnt similar to a wall hack in UT or Quake ? , even if you cant (can you?) use it to target a mob or another player it still gives you a look at things you shouldnt be able to see -clearly not the way the game was intended and a definate cheat imho
/me votes remove zoom from config
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Actually, anything on your local pc is under your ownership, you purchase the ability to play the game, any content that is stored physically on your pc from anything you purchase is yours.
I work for a software programming company, this is LAW.
I've dealt with it before.
Now, the 'company' in this aspect, has the right to check the files that is used to run there application that is on your PC, if this file is altared, they are in there right to terminate any support agreement that they might have. Again, this is LAW.
If they deem the client.cfg file contains information pertanent to running the game, and require that information to be sustained across all clients, they can notifiy you that the file has been altared and give you the option to restore the file to factory specs, they then, by law, have to give you the option to modify the file locally or not.
They have the right to choose to allow you to play the game with the file / files that are altered or not, that is there right by law.
What is against the law, is to tell you that once you have purchased software that is physically installed on property you own, that you are not allowed to modify it in anyway.
What is not against the law, is them telling you that if you do this, they will terminate your ability to play said game because the files are altared from there original state, and go against there internal policies as to who is allowed to play and why, there is nothing you can do about this.
This is standard laws in America for anyone who own's a computer and installs software from any manufacturer, its a basic rule, simply, you own the software on your pc, including the media you purchased, no 100000000 page document from the manufacturer can change this, this went through the supreme court years ago.
Any attorney will tell you anything beyond this isn't worth the paper its printed on.
Bottom line, if you want to play Ryzom, play by there rules, if they detect altared files, and notify you that they are restoring them to factory spects Yes / No, and you choose No, then, it is up to them if they wish for you to connect to there play servers, not you.
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cerest wrote:"Forbidden" in this case is just as Grandma (GFunk) explained. If a player decides he /has/ to alter the .cfg file, or merely wants to, we are under no obligation to offer support as this has altered the intended state of the game, and is a violation of the EULA. Will you get banned? That will be on a case by case basis.
I actually have commented on this before around the first of the year saying pretty much the same thing...
Thanks cerest, I wasn't around then, and am horrible at using searches.
A wise man does not dwell on his past. He learns from it, he grows from it, and then moves ahead into his future.
And some wise words from a wise man.
Orleron on Avlis.org wrote:You have to excuse Themi. Tact, diplomacy, and softness are not his best traits, but he does not mean anything by his writing. He's a nice guy. You just get used to it after a while because he doesn't seem to learn.
With what I have seen so far of this concern, if they were going to ban people...they would have to ban ALL of the Linux players (there are more than a few that have spoken opening on forums about ONLY playing in Linux formate. I have to wonder if the game plays better in linux, and if I knew it did and knew how to get linux working on my system...I might JOIN the linux players!), they would have to ban a LONG list of players that have spoken out about using the zoom "cheat"
Ryzom is not the only game that has "customizable" UI features (like the client files that can be altered), EQ had "skins" that were a part of the user UI and there was a brisk traffic to sites that had the best skins for spellbooks and other UI features. After trouble came with the UI not auto updating, I remember changing BACK to the old and boring one...just easier to patch everyweek.
zumwalt wrote:Actually, anything on your local pc is under your ownership, you purchase the ability to play the game, any content that is stored physically on your pc from anything you purchase is yours.
I work for a software programming company, this is LAW.
I've dealt with it before.
Now, the 'company' in this aspect, has the right to check the files that is used to run there application that is on your PC, if this file is altared, they are in there right to terminate any support agreement that they might have. Again, this is LAW.
If they deem the client.cfg file contains information pertanent to running the game, and require that information to be sustained across all clients, they can notifiy you that the file has been altared and give you the option to restore the file to factory specs, they then, by law, have to give you the option to modify the file locally or not.
They have the right to choose to allow you to play the game with the file / files that are altered or not, that is there right by law.
What is against the law, is to tell you that once you have purchased software that is physically installed on property you own, that you are not allowed to modify it in anyway.
What is not against the law, is them telling you that if you do this, they will terminate your ability to play said game because the files are altared from there original state, and go against there internal policies as to who is allowed to play and why, there is nothing you can do about this.
This is standard laws in America for anyone who own's a computer and installs software from any manufacturer, its a basic rule, simply, you own the software on your pc, including the media you purchased, no 100000000 page document from the manufacturer can change this, this went through the supreme court years ago.
Any attorney will tell you anything beyond this isn't worth the paper its printed on.
Bottom line, if you want to play Ryzom, play by there rules, if they detect altared files, and notify you that they are restoring them to factory spects Yes / No, and you choose No, then, it is up to them if they wish for you to connect to there play servers, not you.
Have you ever read any of the license agreements that come with any software packages? All of them state that you have the right to use the software and in no way own it. The companies retain ownership of all files and may revoke your access to the use of said files at any time as they see fit. If it were against the law to do so then why are all license agreements still stating such facts? BTW, Nevrax is based in France so any American laws would not apply.
