The Last Straw

[fschook]

Ok lets get it straight Sinful

I dont read the threads and I hate posting in them also, but I was asked to set the story straight.

I was hunting with Neva, Buns, and Milfy. we were all getting along (and if anyone does not know Milfy is my in game wife) until Mr. Grumpy came along.

Well Sinful was upset because he was forging in the pr and was being disturbed NOT KILLED by CP. So to make a lond story short when I went down in team, NO ONE WAS GOING TO HEAL ME!

Now how do I know that he said that?? well I asked Milfy and she could not answer me... Well after 1 min left in time Milfy (my beautiful wife) healed me.

I then walked over to Sin and asked... my would you not heal a team mate, he did not answer me, I then said I have two words for you A** HOLE... I then told him... I will have revenge and CP has a BOUNTY on ur head now...

After this, I then ported out of team and so did Milfy.. Later that night I recieved a pm from NEVA and MILFY telling me that Sinful was wrong and we should of not have done that to you like we did, and they both said SORRY. I replied saying I would have no problem IF (a big if) he killed me in a PVP zone, but to not heal someone who is helping you get XP is flat out wrong.....

Sinful remember this is a game... nothing personal, if you cant take the heat leave the game...

I will always look for you in PVP and even if your harvesting I will kill you... I will not stop until you step down as guild leader.

If you kill me i'll tell you good job. i'm not going to cry.

After what you did why should I let you get the goods in a PVP ZONE, ur KARAVAN.

TO ALL GUILDS CP WILL NOT KILL ANY HARVESTERS EXCEPT SINFUL, SO DONT WORRY YOU ALL CAN DIG BUT HIM...... NIGHT AND DAY CP WILL LOOK FOR YOU SIN......


Spike
officer of CP

ps I will not say another word about this.

[roninpvp]

Ok lets get it straight Sinful

Well Sinful was upset because he was forging in the pr and was being disturbed NOT KILLED by CP.

Disturbed you may call it but it was clearly harressment which is against the rules. Had they killed me then I could not complain cause that was in the rules. But to stay around and harress me for a period of time so i could not dig is not disturbing its making me unable to harvest.

So to make a lond story short when I went down in team, NO ONE WAS GOING TO HEAL ME!

I dont know why you think nobody was going to rez you. I merely said lets just wait a little before healing you is all. After all you were trash talking the whole time in team.

I will always look for you in PVP and even if your harvesting I will kill you... I will not stop until you step down as guild leader.

Tho there has to be a "leader" in the game mechanics of the guild I do not make the decissions. We all decide. I have told the others I will leave the guild and join another if they do not want to support me. They asked me not to leave.

[sathla]

You know, I have only been playing this game for a month now so I have yet a chance to get into the RPing and PvP aspect of this game. In guild chat today I observed Juggernaut stating there was a bounty on Sinful's head and he attacked. If this is true then.... and as for it being "cheese" from hiding behind plants. How? He's using surprise and a tactical advantage of the land to attack, pretty smart if you ask me. You should read up on military tactis some roninpvp, might learn some neat stuff.
"Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where
you are not expected." - Sun Tzu "The Art of War"

[roninpvp]

You know, I have only been playing this game for a month now so I have yet a chance to get into the RPing and PvP aspect of this game. In guild chat today I observed Juggernaut stating there was a bounty on Sinful's head and he attacked. If this is true then.... and as for it being "cheese" from hiding behind plants. How? He's using surprise and a tactical advantage of the land to attack, pretty smart if you ask me. You should read up on military tactis some roninpvp, might learn some neat stuff.
"Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where
you are not expected." - Sun Tzu "The Art of War"

I did not realize cp was gonna not honor the leaving of harvesters alone. I saw him and thought nothing else about it. I had not realized that I was so popular with CP.

[xcomvic]

LMAO... you guys look like your having too much fun...

[zumwalt]

Although, this is quiet amusing to me, especially the part that was mentioned that this is only a game, the the part of "I will kill you blah blah blah", I see several acknowledgements of using and abusing exploits.

Lets see.
Targeting exploit, Juggernaut 'hid' behind 'plants' ok these are targetable's, so is the nodes that have been spawned.

So, Jugger got his target then hid behind a plant to keep his target from targeting him, thus using an exploit to avoid being targeted.

The part about harassment.. well, seeing someones nodes and running up then clicking on them then moving on to next blah blah blah, you have just used another eploit in the system to stop someone from harvesting there nodes.. need I say.. you did this repeatedly.

*scratches his head*
You brag about using 2 exploits in the game to assist yourself in what you are deaming a justifiable situation because they were teaching you a lesson per say about not healing you, but you didn't die.. you were healed, no matter who did it, you actually didn't die, so you have no gripe.

CP openly kept a harvestor from harvesting in the PR, and openly admitted to harassment by means of keeping the harvester from being allowed to harvest there nodes.

This story, although initially 'might' have fit in this windermeer forum, now belongs in either general, or locked down and reviewed by the GM's to see if in fact the EULA was breached by the events that occured as posted in this thread against the member of CP who did this against the harvestor.

Thats all I really get out of this.

Seriously, if Sinful was such a pain, you 'kick' him from the group and go about your business.

And Spike if you are really going to carry such a grudge against people to openly admit your going to pretty much stalk them and kill them at will in PVP, you might think about some sort of doctors appointment, I think they have pills that help with such anger and aggressiveness, after all, it really is just a game.

Bottom line, guys, come on, after you kill someone with a so called bounty on there head, that death would then clear the bounty, the hunt is over, killing them repeatedly because your mad at them for 1 incident, is just.. stupid.

Secondly, don't harass someone while there harvesting by hitting all there nodes to cause them not to be harvestable, that is just plain childish.

Something stinks in this thread and it smells like a temper tantrum.
Admins please move this thread to general or something, it is serving no purpose in Windermeer.

[caitiff]

Targeting exploit, Juggernaut 'hid' behind 'plants' ok these are targetable's, so is the nodes that have been spawned.

Just want to point out that if someone does this to you just use Ctrl + Space. This will target the player infront of you. This would have fixed that problem

PS. I dont really see that as an exploit, that is just using strategy. Honestly i dont see how you can say you cant/shouldnt do that. Specially where it is easy to get around it. Even if it wasnt though, you have to be able to use strategy. That is part of what structures are for. Have to think things through. Too many ppl i think are focussed on seeing an exploit in what someone does.

[sathla]

You're trying to twist my words around ronin, I only stated there was a bounty on your head for said reasons and that is why Juggernaut attacked you. If you didn't have a bounty on your head then I doubt you would of been attacked in the first place. But something tells me that you have done something to aggrivate a member in CP in the past though, just doesn't seem like something that just now sprung up.

zumwalt your trolling isn't helping anything, as much as I LOVE a good argument. If you were trying to defuse this situation you should of worded your post better, but I liked it regardless.

Nothing better than a heated debate on an MMORPG forum to pass the time when the servers are down or overly laggy, as long as they don't turn into flame wars.

Hopefully more bloodshed will follow, for I love strife. Don't get me wrong though, I love CP and the members in it for they are very nice and helpfull people and I will defend CP to the bitter end.

P.S. Caitiff: point for you, and that backs up my point on using the terrain as an advantage. It's not an exploit to be smarter than your enemy is it?

[roninpvp]

But something tells me that you have done something to aggrivate a member in CP in the past though.

I stored some mats on NPC and several members of your guild CP harressed me for it. Kako send me profanity in tells. Then Malion kept hitting all my nodes for a second so I could not harvest. Zen had me targeted while I was digging telling me "strip mining sucks" (how is a harvester to level if not digging?). Malion and Kako used rude/profane language to tell me not to do this. Before even putting one mat on NPC for temporary storage (only when I need to cause I have no storarage left) I had personally asked a GM if this was allowed (i.e. not an exploit) the GM informed it was allowed and not on the exploit list. Well it got to the point a GM had to state it was allowed in Klients because of all the arguing over it. Bottom line CP thought the game should be played by their rules which I did not and they tried to enforce their rules on me by harressing me.

[roninpvp]

Just want to point out that if someone does this to you just use Ctrl + Space. This will target the player infront of you. This would have fixed that problem

That is to target someone friendly in your team. The fact is even with mutliple nodes up from several harvesters its almost impossible to target through it. Add an addtional spawn of tightly clustered plants just adds to an almost impossible task.