Put some NPC's playing drums at the entrance of Zora

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ambika
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Re: Put some NPC's playing drums at the entrance of Zora

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Oddly, I have more lag on Matis lands than on Zorai lands. I have most of my graphical settings maxed out (for some reason, I use lower settings...I get mroe lag x.X;; ;) . I always thought it was because Zorai lands had less people there than in Matis lands.
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Re: Put some NPC's playing drums at the entrance of Zora

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raynes wrote:Just because you or some other players don't have the computer or network connection to handle the game, doesn't mean the devs should ruin the atmosphere. If you are having graphical lag, turn down your settings. If you are having network lag, stop playing with a 56K modem.

Zora is a city. Cities have lots of people. Taking them out would only make Zora seem more empty than it already is.
raynes wrote:So if Zora is so empty due to lag caused by NPCS, how come Jen-Lai, Hoi-Cho, and Min-Cho are also as empty of players? They certainly don't have as many NPCS as Zora. Taking NPCS out isn't going to increase the number of players that go to Zora by any significant amount. It can only serve to ruin the atmosphere they provide.

Your right about there being less NPC's in the other citys perhaps that is why most of the players are in Min-Cho. You should stop by some time and say hi to all of us >.< and I am not playing on a bad computer or have a bad connection, zora has way way to many NPC's. Im not saying take them all out Im saying reduce the number that are already there so that a large number of us players dont have to fear going there. I crashed 3 times in zora yesterday and my guild leader crashed 2 times.
raynes wrote:It can only serve to ruin the atmosphere they provide.

Would that be the atmosphere where my computer lag spike shoots out of the top of my computer when in town or when my game just shuts itself down and I have to spend 10-15min trying to get back in?
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plarfman wrote:Your right about there being less NPC's in the other citys perhaps that is why most of the players are in Min-Cho. You should stop by some time and say hi to all of us >.< and I am not playing on a bad machien or have a bad connection zora has way way to many NPC's. Im not saying take them all out Im saying reduce the number that are already there so that a large number of us players dont have to fear going there. I crashed 3 times in zora yesterday and my guild leader crashed 2 times.



would that be the atmosphere where my computer lag spike shoots out of the top of my computer when in town or when my game just shuts itself down and I have to spend 10-15min trying to get back in?
It has to either be your machine or your connection. I have a mid-low range pc, middle of the line video card, and a dsl connection and I get no lag whatsoever when I am in Zora. If it were the NPCs I would have a problem.
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raynes wrote:It has to either be your machine or your connection. I have a mid-low range pc, middle of the line video card, and a dsl connection and I get no lag whatsoever when I am in Zora. If it were the NPCs I would have a problem.
One of my friends told me that the first thing she does after porting into or entering a new area is slowly turn her avatar around a couple times to let the new environment load into memory before taking a step or opening any new windows. Ever since then, I have adopted that habit myself, with good results.

There are some places in the game that are reported to me as being "laggy" by many of my friends that play the game. People on my friends list seem to crash most frequently in parts of tryker (fairhaven, the waterfall near windermeer), some of the areas in zorai lands, and one bridge in the fyros lands.

Regardless of the actual cause of the problem, the end result of an area getting a reputation for crashing clients or being "laggy" is that over time, more and more people will avoid it just on the testimony of their friends, or because their friends can't or won't play there.

That's why I hope that lag issues would be considered before any new npc's are added to an area that's already got a possibly unjustified reputation for being laggy or causing crashes.

Zorai already has the most beautiful architecture and city design of all the lands, in my opinion. It's a shame more real, live people are not there playing in that wonderful land. I think they would add more to most player's gaming experience than any number of npc's, but they won't be tempted to try if every time they visit, each step takes 30 seconds to complete. I doubt most players will change their financial priorities just to upgrade their computers and connections so they can enjoy one of the four lands in Ryzom. The better solution to getting more people in to zorai cities would be to address any real or perceived issues with lag or playability of the game in that land.

Npc drummers might add to the atmosphere for the very few players that spend much of their time in the zorai lands and yet still hurt that region's population density, which is still quite low.
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raynes wrote:It has to either be your machine or your connection. I have a mid-low range pc, middle of the line video card, and a dsl connection and I get no lag whatsoever when I am in Zora. If it were the NPCs I would have a problem.

I find that very hard to beleive as everyone else I know not just me has problems with the lag in that city. Im not trying to say there shouldnt be any npc's raynes im saying that they should reduce the number there so anyone with even a decent machien wont crash and burn upon entering.

edit:well said varelse
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plarfman wrote:I find that very hard to beleive as everyone else I know not just me has problems with the lag in that city. Im not trying to say there shouldnt be any npc's raynes im saying that they should reduce the number there so anyone with even a decent machien wont crash and burn upon entering.

edit:well said varelse
Let me ask you this, how do your machines act during raids? Do you get the same sort of lag?
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raynes wrote:Let me ask you this, how do your machines act during raids? Do you get the same sort of lag?

This has nothing to do with raids it has to do with on a daily bases being able to walk into a town to do mission/ect and not crashing/lagging to all hell. Again im not saying remove all the npc's only a good amount to help releive the problems.
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I have lag issues nowhere but Zora and Fairhaven. This is the same for a lot of people I know of.. most people I can think of actually.
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plarfman wrote:This has nothing to do with raids it has to do with on a daily bases being able to walk into a town to do mission/ect and not crashing/lagging to all hell. Again im not saying remove all the npc's only a good amount to help releive the problems.
It has lots to do with Raids. If it's an issue with the number of NPCs you should get the same lag during a raid. Because in both instances there is a high number of objects on screen.

And I understand you aren't saying remove them all. What I am saying is that it isn't the number of NPC's causing lag.
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raynes wrote:It has lots to do with Raids. If it's an issue with the number of NPCs you should get the same lag during a raid. Because in both instances there is a high number of objects on screen.

And I understand you aren't saying remove them all. What I am saying is that it isn't the number of NPC's causing lag.

Yup ok your right its not the npc's that are everywhere that lags myself and others to hell.Maybe you could enlighten me as to what it is that makes the huge lag spikes when im running around the town.
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