Ryzom

Thats what I am going to name this game from now on cause a hilarius thing just happened while I was playing Its happening as we speak in Hidden Source and you are all welcome to observe in rea time the enormous responsibility of the developers of Saga of Ryzom.

The story:

I spend all my time since new years eve in learning Hidden Source because I wanted to have transports through there to arange a trading trail to Matis. All GMS thet were there all these days know this since I spoke to them and they spoke back.


What happened today is that I respawned back from Matis borders to take a friend with me that he too wanted to folow on and register his Matis teleport spawn place.

It was around 30 minutes of wait time and as he came through the portal in Hidden Source we began our trip from inside Hidden Source cave.
We reached the empty tribe vilage just outside the Hidden Source portal cave only to find 2 outposts spawned there out from nowhere that they werent there before and to much of our horor 1 UNKNOWN UNTIL NOW TRIBE ATTACKING EVERYTHINK AND AGROING FROM 100 AND MORE METERS!
We msg the GM that was on spot visible in the local area "/who" command and told us that weil relay the info to the Devs and that they makeing changes at the time, and as we speak probably. I carried on many times till the vilage and it happened the same we waited there for 2 hours and I was asking the GM for feedback, all we got was that GM left the area so we coudlnt commnicate with local and that happened after THEY CHANGED THE AGRO (not social) MOBS TO RUN AROUND THE WHOLE PASSAGE (while it wasnt like this before) SO PROBABLY THEY WANTED FOR PPL TO BLAME IT ON THE MOBS (not the new content village and bugy tribe) untill God knows what, they are still like this as we speak.
I requested from the GM many times to TP us to the other side but said that dont have this kind of authorization, after I asked time of completion there was no answer, not in "/tell" not Region channel NOT EVEN IN THE BUG REPORT I SENDED SO MANY TIMES!!! While tickets used to be answered in a heartbeat untill now.

It is outrageous, what is the problem with them?

Who can say they helping players through the game when situation is like this and even with the help of the most skilled player we clearly cant continue there and we have to go back NO MATTER WHAT!

I ASKED THEM REPEATEDLY TO MOVE US TO THE EXIT OF THE REGION to the way we were supposed to be traveling if the bug wouldnt occur and that is the adjacent Matis area.

NO ANSWER AS OF YET!

I had to share this with someone. It is my first day of subscriptino and I already am so pissd I WANT TO CANCEL IT. What do you think people?

edited: Teamie just got feedback from GM that he can use his TP ticket back (he coudlnt at that time) but it seems I AM STILL BEING IGNORED FROM GMS and DEVs.

i think first off, you take this way too seriously, its a game, meant for enjoyment, and if youre this stressed over one small facet of the game not workin properly for you, then maybe you need to rethink the reasons you ""play" "games""


i think that there has been many posts about the GM's unability to teleport people who wish to be tp'ed.


i think that there is many many bugs in the game, and the thing youre describing happens to be one of the bugs on this day, no moreso or less so game-breaking than most of the other bugs. annoying? -yes. game breaking? - no


i think you have an overinflated case of self importance


of course, thats just what i think

Welcome to Ryzom. If you're stuck in the landscape, message a gm, they might be able to help you out. Otherwise they just take notes for devs to use as toilet paper.

lootking wrote:
i think you have an overinflated case of self importance

of course, thats just what i think

I'm going to read that...

and then read your signature listing the complete breakdown of all your levels...

lootking wrote:
meestor - member, pegasus foundation

161 lake, 63 PR, 101 forest. q130 tryker MQ buckler/shield, q130 tryker MQ HA,MA,LA +65 hp, +35focus. q110 tyker MQ daggers/1h maces/amps, q60 pistols/pistol ammo, q90 jewelry (2 pieces), q110 matis MQ 1h sword/dagger/2h mace/amp. 65 healer,52 DA,64 OA,64 OE,57 2h/55 1h .......so far......

then read that again...

lootking wrote:
i think you have an overinflated case of self importance

of course, thats just what i think

that's hilarious. gj.

Thank you for your "kind words" my friend lootking..

I am so thankfull this is a game with such a "friendly" community..because I was about to ask for a team of good men to help me pass through Hidden Source which is unpassable right now thanks to the deliberate bugs they have put there.

i think you have an overinflated case of self importance

Well I am not the one who made the mess here and no I dont feel that self important, what drived me most to put this post is not that while 2 days there exploring the passage a GM stood right there prolly recording my moves to make all of our lifes harder cause they dont seem to have ability to put real content in the game yet, so we need somet6hing else to worry about.
What made me put this issue on the boards is the observing I did of the BUG and how it was IMHO "prepared" in frustration hurry and deliberatenes, just to make everyones life hard without working too much and without carrying, plus the tottaly irresponsible excuses of the GM who kept ignoring me while was eager to help others that were in the region... cause we just the idiots who pay right? Nothing more than that.

Here is the discussion with the GM, bare in mind that is prolly a French corporation that works on..well Europian time zones. Of course I got all the screenshots to prove it.

GM: DO you know what day is it?
GM: Good. You know the date?
GM: Ok, now what makes you think a developer is standing by to wait on you?
GM: I understand that you're a customer and we want you to have a good experience.
GM: But this is ridiculous.
GM: Look, you're fine. You can play now. This discussion is over.
GM: What bug?
GM: yes
GM: Ok here's the deal
GM: There is no tribe here now.
GM: They move on their own.
GM: this whole thing of GMs moving mobs is a myth.
GM: invented on the forums
GM: We can't do that nor would we if we could.
GM: Oh so you think the developers are coming in on a Sunday morning to agro tribesmen on you?
GM: It's just the way the game works
GM: Ok man I tried.



Thats it, I am an idiot who just pays the bills, adn I am crazy too, I keep seeing things...the bugy tribe mob was still there after 5 minutes though.
That agroed from 100m
That could'nt be targetet from compass and you could'nt have their name displayed to show you the distance of them every time like in unbugged mobs and this of course means you must have your character settings to over than 110 to at least be able to see what killed you.
That could shoot magic from 100 meters too
That can detect you even you are behind a hill from 100meters away

Most other agroing (not social) mobs were carefully moved in the way you aproached the village..just a clever trick so when a player makes a fuss they can blame it on his ability, NOT THEIR BUGS! I was there 2 whole days I observed every behavior of mobs because I wanted to earn money from future excursions with merchandise and mules with me as a guide.
This means this stupid design and behavior in that part of the world who helps 2 diff civilizations exchange goods (its the fastest way) must be cut off now, and God knows why.

I know its a game my friend but lies I cant stand, they droped the damn think on top of my head while we 2 ppl were playing there, and then they say that no one of their team works on Sundays and since its a vacation day I must repsect that. BUT. Its not a celebration day for half of this planets population and I realize in France (where they probably operate) they understand that very well since they made lots of changes in their Consitution for religions and tolerance in general recently. So they lied to me after ignoring me too, cause they dont care for their paying customers. This is an MMOG ppl put time and efforts in inorder to lvl or achieve things. I am not taking it too seriously, its their attitude that drives me mad. This is not about a game its about respect to the customer. I asked them many times to move me away from this area they been clearly working at the time and they never answered back, so I just had to cancel whatever I did cause they didnt want to bother. Was what I ask so much?

I have a clear set of screenshots showing the BUGs that are present there, the agroing from 100 meters where no mob is doing this in the entire game, the absense of Targeting name in compass, the changed spots mobs appear too to make it more difficult without a real reason (cause I have prior screens too because i wanted to some presentation to some ppl), and I spoke with many people that without having prior notice from the Devs or GMs the "sudden" bug ruined their game too. All that in New years Eve second day and my first day of subscription. I havent noticed so much unresponsible way of making thinks than here and today. So come and wear my shoes and see what you would have said or posted.

This post its not an answer to you but I generally want to show ppl what happened and what to expect from Ryzom service. If they re bad at their work they deserve all they deserve. When every time we customers make excuses for them like "ok it has bugs so what" then every new product we get will be worse like its already happening. I want to have fun not posting up and down on forums for other ppl irresponsibility to their paying customers.

I suppose you lootking a member of this "friendly" community will come to my aid and help me pass Hidden Source this time since they must be doing all of this to force us play in to teams I guess..Right? I am awaiting your or other peoples offers, I am at Hidden Source portal atm. Lets see..

ok, some words about this whole thing:
if gms can't move npcs unlike they can do with pcs, i would like to see a good explanation for this: http://exekutor1.ex.funpic.de/futallaby ... 576432.jpg

now about it being a sunday etc. he was speaking the truth there, france has stricter laws about working time(thus the fact that patches occur only during office time) and the support personal is not connected with them in any other way than being contracted by nevrax to help players work out with technical problems with the client and to process and forward reported bugs
they simply are not allowed to teleport players except for getting them unstuck and if they did they'd be violating their contract with nevrax

about changing mob spots: that occurs very often and most noticeably after server crashes and reboots, i have a friend who is root harvester and after every patch, crash and reboot some spots in his digging grounds were blocked by aggro mobs or subject to frequent patrolling, while others opened up

leone2nd wrote:I asked them many times to move me away from this area they been clearly working at the time and they never answered back, so I just had to cancel whatever I did cause they didnt want to bother. Was what I ask so much?

Gm's have rules to follow as well, they aren't permitted to just pick people up and move them when they find themselves getting their asses kicked. A GM's ability to assist you is very limited, think of them like a secretary, they can take messages and pass them on to someone else, who in turn may or may not give a rat's ass.

If there is a bug in regards to the mobs you encountered, you can be sure that the Game Master made a note of it, which they'll pass on to someone who might be able to do something about it... if the notion takes them.

Apart from all that.... You said it's only your second day? How the hell did you get to the bottom of Heretics Hovel? Stick to a lower level area for another month or two. You won't be able to run laps of the world on your second day. Bad things happen when the mobs are 10 times bigger than you, as I'm sure you're well aware of by now.

neofuzz wrote:Gm's have rules to follow as well, they aren't permitted to just pick people up and move them when they find themselves getting their asses kicked. A GM's ability to assist you is very limited, think of them like a secretary, they can take messages and pass them on to someone else, who in turn may or may not give a rat's ass.

If there is a bug in regards to the mobs you encountered, you can be sure that the Game Master made a note of it, which they'll pass on to someone who might be able to do something about it... if the notion takes them.

Apart from all that.... You said it's only your second day? How the hell did you get to the bottom of Heretics Hovel? Stick to a lower level area for another month or two. You won't be able to run laps of the world on your second day. Bad things happen when the mobs are 10 times bigger than you, as I'm sure you're well aware of by now.

Its not my second paying day, I played for 14+2 days, you forgot about the 14 day trial I suppose
What i asked the GM was that while they seem to be working on the area at this time, I didnt want to be of a bother and that they could move us to the end of the area they ve been working on that has the bugs, its not a case of difficult mobs I coudlnt handle, I spend 2 days there and know every spot now, if they moved us just past the vilage they been working atm would be ok, but no they dont care. High lvls wont change anything if there are bugs involved, it think you yourself know this too well. Unresponsible ppl will change even less that that. I am standing at the point trying to find a way out atm, still no offers from the "friendly" community which seems quick enough to bash posts that "burst their bubble" than to help a fellow player. One last time, the name is Evander and sitting in front of the Hidden SOurce portal that can be accessed by the Kipuka plains in Thesos.

I used to do a lot of path finding with changing spawns and mobs like this in Project Entropia, where every move could cost you real money, or win you big, I dumped that game of course because it had turned to a gambling machine.

Maybe I'm a little confused. Here is what I'm getting out of your posts.

1) you entered Hidden Source - an area everyone knows to be very aggro.
2) you were aggro'd by tribes and mobs from a distance that YOU think was not right
3) intead of just reporting it as a bug, you called a GM and asked him to do the one thing GM's have made it quiite clear they will NOT do for anyone, teleport you accross to make your life easier
4) when the 'bug' you wanted fixed was not fixed right away (on a Sun afternoon for them) and you were not TP'd, you kept bugging the GM to do this
5) you actually started blaming the GM and throwing accusations till he started to ignore you

and now you are here wanted to show people that you were treated bad? Is this what you're saying because this is all I've read from your post so far. I'm sorry if this is not right, however you are rambling a little more than you need to and it makes it hard to understand for me. If I am wrong, please list exactly what happened so it may be more clear for others... Thanks

Okay - I was typing when you stated your name.
I will tell you this out here in the forums as I've told you in-game (I'm Krae)...
You are too new to be doing what you want to do. You're levels ARE too low. You have given me the impression that you think you can go anywhere you want and when you find it difficult, you complain about it and want someone else to fix it for you.
You an I had a long conversation about your 'path of safety'. I told you the mobs would move around and you told me they wouldn't. Guess what? They did. This is part of the living world of Atys. The mobs are not stuck in the same place waiting for you to come looking for them. I have even had run-ins with some that seem to have a memory of where they were killed (not a pleasant experience) and they kept coming after our group every time we killed them. Again, seasons change where the mobs go, resets to the server change where the mobs start., and migrating mobs move on a semi-regular path. This is AI we are talking about. Stop thinking this is anything like other games. I am sorry your 'safe path' has changed for the season. Maybe you can find another? You ARE the one claiming to be an UBER guide that doesn't need levels to go anywhere. Prove it by actually doing it and not wanting to do it through Gm intervention... /end rant