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Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:12 pm
by raynes
If Cerest can get an official answer I would be very happy.
1) Are the Icon Worshippers a Zorai only group?
2) When you do some Icon Worshippers missions you get awarded Kami faction, Matis faction, and Icon Worshippers faction. You also get Karavan faction taken away. As the Matis and the Kami don't like each other, and it appears that the Icon Worshippers are a Zorai only group, is it a bug to get Matis fame? Should the fame be going to Zorai instead?
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:12 pm
by fiadd
I'm pretty sure this is a bug - icon worshippers used to give out zorai faction. There is at least one group around which gives out both matis and kami fame - the dead seeds in maiden's grove (and this a tribe made up of matis). Based on the interview published with the developer, it's pretty clear that the kami/karavan faction split is the big choice in the world, and the races aren't so clear cut divided. While the majority of matis might follow karavan, does it really shock your world view that there are some small groups of matis who have decided to side with the kami and moved to zorai lands?
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:20 pm
by jdiegel
fiadd wrote:While the majority of matis might follow karavan, does it really shock your world view that there are some small groups of matis who have decided to side with the kami and moved to zorai lands?
But if they did, would(should) the Kami accept them?
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:33 pm
by fiadd
jdiegel wrote:But if they did, would(should) the Kami accept them?
Based on the kami in the dead seed camp, I would say they already did.
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:46 pm
by raynes
fiadd wrote:I'm pretty sure this is a bug - icon worshippers used to give out zorai faction. There is at least one group around which gives out both matis and kami fame - the dead seeds in maiden's grove (and this a tribe made up of matis). Based on the interview published with the developer, it's pretty clear that the kami/karavan faction split is the big choice in the world, and the races aren't so clear cut divided. While the majority of matis might follow karavan, does it really shock your world view that there are some small groups of matis who have decided to side with the kami and moved to zorai lands?
No I do beleive there are some small groups that might follow something other than what their race approves of. But the thing that bothers me with the Icon Worshippers is that the group is entierly made up of Zorai. So why would Matis fame be given and Zorai fame not. This is why I think it's a bug. I was hoping Cerest would verify that info for us.
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:50 pm
by jdiegel
fiadd wrote:Based on the kami in the dead seed camp, I would say they already did.
Why did they then?
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:51 pm
by jesder
raynes wrote:This is why I think it's a bug. I was hoping Cerest would verify that info for us.
I think you are right that it is a bug ..
I do not remeber ever getting matis fame for Icon missions and only noticed it the other day. But I welcome this bug .. It helps offset the negative matis fame I have been getting from the shadow runner missions.
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:54 pm
by fiadd
jdiegel wrote:Why did they then?
No idea. You must admit the Kami can be a bit hard to understand at times - other than wanting to spread "Kami love" I've never seen them give any reason for their actions.
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:57 pm
by raynes
jesder wrote:I think you are right that it is a bug ..
I do not remeber ever getting matis fame for Icon missions and only noticed it the other day. But I welcome this bug .. It helps offset the negative matis fame I have been getting from the shadow runner missions.
The problem for me is that because of this bug at one point I had a better Matis faction than Zorai. Right now they are about even because I have been doing more Zorai missions.
Re: Icon Worshippers Questions and is this a faction bug?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:44 pm
by fjolnir
raynes wrote:The problem for me is that because of this bug at one point I had a better Matis faction than Zorai.
Kind of like Jerry Lewis having more fame with the French?