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Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:20 pm
by komissar
Hey mates, I was wondering what you think about a server merge possibility.
Do you think it's a good or bad thing and why.
Do you think the devs should open more OPs then?

Personally I think server merge is good - it increases the population, makes the game more "alive" also it makes the politics a great deal more intriguing.

And yes more Ops would be good in that case.

But somehow i don't think merging all three servers is a good idea. I'd say let's unite with the german folks and have two servers english\german and french...

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:36 pm
by iceaxe68
I'll have to think on that one for a while before I vote.

First thought: we'd be forcing our german or french speaking friends to use english, since those of us who is Amerkins is too stoopid to lurn other langwidges. I'm sure the brits and canucks and aussies etc. would adapt just fine.

Maybe that's OK, maybe not. I'd have to ask the ones affected.

It would certainly be a huge mess in terms of storyline.

On the other hand, the population would be nice, and it would be fun to meet many new people.

I dunno. I'm gonna think about it.

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:39 pm
by xzizoux
dunno if a merge is that good ...every server with its folks got their own play style and this could cause probs...other probs could be that some french or german peeps cant talk any english ...so they would create their own group of german or french and stays outside from everything ...this would not be the same as before..we all are always freindly and such to new peeps and i dun think we want that new peeps become outsiders cuz of language problems and and and ....there so much to tell not to merge....

my Vote goes to NO

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:39 pm
by ajsuk
I can understand wanting more people around but I think this is a bad idea because:

The only languages I speak are English and bad English.
The language barrier could have some negative effects on the overall community. Misunderstandings thanks to bad communication happen easily enough over the internet already, this has the potential to make it even worse.

OPs could even turn in to WW2 on Atys, who knows. :p

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:41 pm
by whiterider
Financially, we might have to have a server merge. This would be utterly fracking terrible. Worse than a wipe.

My reasoning for this is pretty simple; language. Many of the Leanon people don't speak English or French, many of the Anirosians don't speak German or English, and many of the Arispotlians don't speak French or German. Now we can manage with a few players on a server who don't speak the language - we get by with the aid of google translate and emphatic use of smilies.
But if we had a large part of the population of a server which couldn't communicate with the other large part of the server, you'd just get two separate communities forming, based on language. Sure there'd be some who'd cross over - but not enough.

If this happens, you lose all the benefits. The community wouldn't be more alive - the server would just feel overcrowded. The politics would suffer greatly as it becomes impossible for guilds to communicate except by means of a select few bi-lingual guildies, or the use of a friendly player as a translator. I doubt players from the two separate communities would team much, and if they did, it would just be grind with no real enjoyment - after all, could you enjoy teaming with someone if the extent of what you could say to them was "heal svp" and "ADD!"?

Edit: Sniped by three people this time... I'm not a sponge!

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:47 pm
by komissar
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Lot's of fun still :)
I wonder what would the german folks say.

And from the perspective of speaking only 1 language I agree it might be quite frustrating but then - what learning possibilities open before you :)
I know quite a few Russian players who joined the game with a really weak english (like 3-4 words) and managed to become at least as fluent as european multi-lingual folks in a matter of months...

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:49 pm
by whiterider
I wouldn't enjoy that... maybe it's just me, I'm terminally verbose and I thrive on puns and the like.

And the thing is that those russian players had to learn English, to be able to communicate - so they did so. But if 50% of, say, Aris' population were French, there'd be no motivation for them to learn English.. they'd just play with the French players.

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:50 pm
by ajsuk
Yeah, the financial issue is the only one that I would consider to be a "good" reason for it, and I use the term "good" generously.

In the long run I feel it could damage Ryzom's apeal & reputation. (even further)
Only having enough dough to run one server doesn't exactly say "Yeah, those Ryzom devs are flush, I bet we can expect a steady stream of great updates and additions from them". :p

If thats the case they shouldn't of bothered buying Ryzom in the first place.

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:00 pm
by kuroari
iceaxe68 wrote:since those of us who is Amerkins is too stoopid to lurn other langwidges.

Hahaha :) I love you Sasi :p

I voted no - even though i have several buddies in the other servers, i wouldn't want the merge. i think it's wonderful that we can be on any server at anytime by making new characters - and with the ring (if it ever got working properly) we could all meet there anyway.

and um, i'm all for learning the das autre languages - teacha me da guurmannnnn!!!

Re: Server Merge

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:17 pm
by whiterider
kuroari wrote:teacha me da guurmannnnn!!!
"Du gehst nach hause in ein krankenwagen"
"scheiss!"
All you'll ever need know, spelling and grammar excluded ;)