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Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:37 pm
by Nirvy
Grrr

So im lvl 86 melee and thought i would take this, at level 2each hit adds 20 to dmg whilst deducting some HP's that my HP regen can cover easily. Sounded half useful especially if i kept upgradeing it.

HOWEVER.. the description didnt tell me it was a fricken AURA!?

OK i start fighting, i activate Beserk, it lasts **120seconds** meansing i get 3-4 hits with the extra damage out of it. It then has to regen for the standard 30 minute Aura recharge.

How crap is that, i cant beleive i saved up 50 Melee Skill points for an aura that adds 20 Dmg for 3 hits, then has to recharge for 30 minutes.

I should have chosen War cry, at least the +30% has some use in a tight spot.

Some of these skills need a serious look, i mean 50 SP for +60 damage ever 30 mins...wonderful :(

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:39 pm
by hivewasp
Nirvy wrote:HOWEVER.. the description didnt tell me it was a fricken AURA!?

It did... every action you buy has infos on it's internal working; berserk has a Timer Credit... you only needed to watch its value. You could modify the credit too.

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:43 pm
by Nirvy
hivewasp wrote:It did... every action you buy has infos on it's internal working; berserk has a Timer Credit... you only needed to watch its value. You could modify the credit too.
The description doesnt mention anything about it being an Aura, it just says, and i Quote

"Increase the damage you may inflict, but lose HP over time."

"Increase to 10 dmage for 20 seconds, but makes you lose 12 HP every 4 seconds"

Considering Beserk 2 is a level 80 Brick, and only adds 20 damage, and then regens for God knows how long, its pointless.

Incrase Dmg 6 is better in everyway, i can use that forever, get double damage. I assumed form the description i could add Beserk to my Inc Dmg 6 stanza.

I dont see what use this could have what so ever.

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:16 pm
by hivewasp
Nirvy wrote:The description doesnt mention anything about it being an Aura, it just says, and i Quote

"Increase the damage you may inflict, but lose HP over time."

"Increase to 10 dmage for 20 seconds, but makes you lose 12 HP every 4 seconds"

Under the description there is a window with all the components of the stanza; with the little boxes... look at the time credit there. Descriptions are useless most of the time, I don't trust them... they're what a human use to describe roughly what it does; but the important information is really displayed in the balance of stanzas and credits because:

1) that's what the game will use, if someone forgot to update the desc you don't need to care
2) that's more accurate: it lists exactly what will be done
3) it;s a good indication of what modifications you can bring to it to suit your game style.

If it was not modifiable by the user or displayed in detail in the stanza construction it would be a problem... but the information is there :o

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:26 pm
by Nirvy
Still dont get it.

Yes you can have the Time credit like the heal life and heal Stamina, but even with Beserk 3 the cost is +0 so you dont even need a credit.

I have timed it, and it seems to be on a 5 min timer, which isnt so bad as i thought.

Still dont get why they added a time credit when beserks is credit free..

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:06 pm
by usinuk
Nirvy wrote:Still dont get it.

Yes you can have the Time credit like the heal life and heal Stamina, but even with Beserk 3 the cost is +0 so you dont even need a credit.

I have timed it, and it seems to be on a 5 min timer, which isnt so bad as i thought.

Still dont get why they added a time credit when beserks is credit free..
How much more damage does Bez 3 do vs Bez 2?

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:08 pm
by Nirvy
usinuk wrote:How much more damage does Bez 2 & 3 do vs Bez 1?
Not enough,

Beserk 2 = 15dmg bonus -18hp loss per 4 secs
Beserk 3 = 20dmg bonus -24hp loss per 4 secs

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:35 pm
by usinuk
Nirvy wrote:Not enough,

Beserk 2 = 15dmg bonus -18hp loss per 4 secs
Beserk 3 = 20dmg bonus -24hp loss per 4 secs
Yuck. I'm taking warcry. :)

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:44 am
by weiseman
combining warcry 2 with berserk 3 here... i get more than 150 damage bonus during the period, all others in team get the +30% damage from warcry too and i get healed (so hp loss is not a real problem)

Very usefull in emergency situations (multiple aggro) to get rid of one target as fast as possible.

Re: Beserk Useless?!

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:06 pm
by usinuk
weiseman wrote:combining warcry 2 with berserk 3 here... i get more than 150 damage bonus during the period, all others in team get the +30% damage from warcry too and i get healed (so hp loss is not a real problem)

Very usefull in emergency situations (multiple aggro) to get rid of one target as fast as possible.
Good combo tip, thanks...