Emperor/Empress of Matis... yes? no? whom?

[jinnear]

After the invasion of the majestic garden last night I started thinking. There was a lot of turmoil in the beginning, homins ran here and there trying to fight off the kitins in every way they could... but sooner or later they always ran into something they couldnt handle... *whack* dead-respawn.
After some time though, Endasil managed to gather almost all homins in one spot for a for a more organized warfare. This, in my own opinion, worked so much better...
The point of this post? Lets make it work better every time.
How? Well, my suggestion can be seen in the title of this post... I say we elect an "emperor/empress" of Matis. The "emperors/empress´s" function should be simple and only have real significance in times of war. Once elected he/she should make himself a council of say, ten homins. Together with the council he/she can discuss strategies of defence and apoint generals (people who knows the deal when the kitins arrive)...
So far this is an idea that makes it easy for everyone to know whom to listen to when the invasion comes. If the emperor/empress is not online, well, listen to the one next in command.
However, this could provide some roleplaying-aspects as well. Lets say there is an election every three months. Between these elections all homins may do things to gain a better position in the next one. What to do? Whatever you can do to rise to the throne of course.

A good idea? I spoke with some "key-figures" from the defending force and they seemed to like it. I think that if we do this the right way, we will have the most well-organized community ever. What do you think?
Please post some comments here, and if you will, possible candidates for the throne.

And for the record, this is not anything Im suggesting because I want to be an emperor... I have no interest in that kind of power.

Cheers!

[jinnear]

Oh, and by the way... if this gets good and positive response.... could we make this a sticky?

[Nirvy]

Im unsure, i have seen this kind of thing fail badly in other games.

Whoever gets elected is generally a person a large guild, who has all his guild mates log on to vote, they then appoint the high council consisting of his guild mates, and it flops as it is never representative of anyone.

I think a council is a better idea, one or two people from the top 10 guilds, it owuld be fairer, more representative.

Then again im not convinced this is needed just yet, i have seen this cause resentment in the past when others are trying to order people around, although admittedly that was due to the council members being full of them selves and having power lust

Dont get me wrong, but i have never seen this implimented properly, except in Eve-Online which supported Alliances and Alliance held land.

[jinnear]

Oh yes... of course we would have to ensure that the council consists of homins from at least five or six guilds (or more?). And as I said, the emperor/empress only really matters when the invasion is upon us... as a voice to guide us.

[b00ster1]

Emperor/Empress of Matis... yes? no?

Imho - no...
Or the person who is not a member of any guilds

[Nirvy]

Oh yes... of course we would have to ensure that the council consists of homins from at least five or six guilds (or more?). And as I said, the emperor/empress only really matters when the invasion is upon us... as a voice to guide us.

The big problems are:-

Max group size is only 9 or 10? So for my guild alone we would need 2 or 3 groups (if we are all on) and each group a leader.

RoA has what 30-40 members? so they would have 4 groups each with a leader.

There are also a few other guild with 20+ memberships adding another 4-5 groups.

Then comes the problem of how all these leaders communicate? If we could create our own chat channels, then perfect, have the group leaders gather in their, but we cant, and with the mass of clutter chat on regional channel, its easier to miss conversations when fighting.

*Yes* im a glass half empty kinda person i always point out the flaws IT could be a good idea if it was done properly and was representative of the server.


My own opinion is that this would be a popularity contest in the end, and someone in the bigger guilds would be voted in due to them being able to get their members to vote them in, and the smaller guilds, and 100's of people not in guilds wouldnt take much notice.

As i have said, i have seen this a few times before, and have set to see it work, or see it being a true represntation of the server as whole

[goshawk]

Historical note.


The roman republic tried this , they invinted the position of Dictator.
A 6 month post having complete control of all the forces and rescources
of the Republic. To be used only in an emergency.

It was used once, the Dictator decided not to hand power back to the
senate. End of Republic , Que Empire of Rome.


Of course the comparison is not a direct one , but it does show a nice example of human nature.




Kestrel

[pcheez]

Personally , i say let the little homins run in confusion and get whacked, maybe even survive . They will learn eventually, they will learn.....

[endasil]

I have to agree that it would be useful to have a few selected leaders during invasions. But not many seem to support this idea. And i have to admit that it would be hard to chose. Maybe once we have been to a few more oganize alot more events together, and get to know eachother better it would be possible to find a group of good leaders.

Anyway. I could organize people during the invasion without having some specific ruler tile for the people, so it works without.

I think that a good leader will lead and unite the people, even if she or he does not have a specific title.


Endasil - Striving to unite the people of matis

[spelk]

Why is there a need for a title and an elected office, is it not simply a case of allying the current guilds? If the guilds are strong enough and their guild leaders a major presence in the game, then they should get to know one another and organise suitable response to Kitin invasions. Perhaps one guild leader took the job on and did an excellent job rallying the troops there, but do they need an official title and a different role in the game? I don't think so, they just need to be aware of the other guild leaders and form an alliance of guilds so that all Matis based guilds can respond.

As soon as you start to place "game importance" on a player, things will go bad. If there was an Emporer or Empress of Matis, I'd prefer it to be an NPC controllable only by the developers. Normal players are too easily swayed by power trips and friendly favours.

All you need are strong guild leaders, with presence in game, and they will rally their troops amongst each other.