Ryzom

It is time for those who are benefitting from the community op of Southend Dunes Farm to take responsibility for the running of it. Numbers in Eleytheria have fallen, it is too much work for few as has been evident with no shows on several occasions, and is also not appropriate for a small guild to keep 3 of the 7 days output. I am not available to run it again, and it is also preferrable that it be run as a co-op in any event.

Running the op as a co-op would entail participating guilds having members create an alt who joins a new guild - possibly called Co-OP to reflect the cooperative and also co ownership of the outpost. At minimum there would be 2 persons who could withdraw cats, the leader and HO and ideally enuf alts to create more than 1 HO. Leadership can be transferred and HO's reassigned which means the work of distributing can be shared, the op can be transferred as ppl leave with no need to declare and fight, ppl can take breaks, and others who wish to donate can create alts and do so directly as well.

It's move it or lose it time folks. You want the community op to continue and also to improve upon what at times was less than 5 stacks a week per guild, you have to get active. The wolves are baying at the door again and it will be lost to the community if you don't act. I will steer the process on the forums, but the rest is 100% up to you.

If you wish to be active but don't like the alt guild model, put forward another proposal plz, as I would love to see the community op strong and working as intended and whatever achieves that is perfect

Cheers all

Zysha

WHOA! wait hang on, there is a OP that isnt owned by a guild specifically? but that is shared ? ....

completely off topic: hey zysha, im away from game atm but dont think I've forgotten you, will be back next week so will catch you then

I think it is only fair if a growing opless kami guild would run it.

I personally think of Apostles as the perfect candidate...

spoloh wrote:I think it is only fair if a growing opless kami guild would run it.

Why? It's not a kami guild that "runs" (note I didn't say owns) it at the moment.

Only because many kami warriors are leaving for Cho... And the remaining should have at least some kind of compensation.

I didn't say "owns" either. Runs a community OP was what I meant and said.

Respectfully your,

spoloh wrote:Only because many kami warriors are leaving for Cho... And the remaining should have at least some kind of compensation.

I didn't say "owns" either. Runs a community OP was what I meant and said.

Respectfully your,

What I meant was why should Zysha give it to a side that she doesn't belong to? It's started as a community op and if it was given to a kamist guild then I think its worth as a community op (ie one for the "opless masses") would be devalued.

tigrus wrote:WHOA! wait hang on, there is a OP that isnt owned by a guild specifically? but that is shared ? ....

Oh man, where to start. Here, try these threads out. Plenty of reading to catch up on for ya.

Invitations from Zysha to All
Southend Dunes Farm transfer to Eleytheria
Zysha's Current Position on Southend Dunes Farm Op
Proposal for Southend Dunes Farm
Outpostless wanting a share of Southend Dunes Farm

New folk may not know about it since it's not talked about too often, but it's not a big secret.

Speaking as a Kami 'follower', I think a community OP should be run by a neutral guild. Then there should be less 'argumant' along faction lines over who gets what.

nonde wrote:It is time for those who are benefitting from the community op of Southend Dunes Farm to take responsibility for the running of it. Numbers in Eleytheria have fallen, it is too much work for few as has been evident with no shows on several occasions, and is also not appropriate for a small guild to keep 3 of the 7 days output. I am not available to run it again, and it is also preferrable that it be run as a co-op in any event.

Running the op as a co-op would entail participating guilds having members create an alt who joins a new guild - possibly called Co-OP to reflect the cooperative and also co ownership of the outpost. At minimum there would be 2 persons who could withdraw cats, the leader and HO and ideally enuf alts to create more than 1 HO. Leadership can be transferred and HO's reassigned which means the work of distributing can be shared, the op can be transferred as ppl leave with no need to declare and fight, ppl can take breaks, and others who wish to donate can create alts and do so directly as well.

It's move it or lose it time folks. You want the community op to continue and also to improve upon what at times was less than 5 stacks a week per guild, you have to get active. The wolves are baying at the door again and it will be lost to the community if you don't act. I will steer the process on the forums, but the rest is 100% up to you.

If you wish to be active but don't like the alt guild model, put forward another proposal plz, as I would love to see the community op strong and working as intended and whatever achieves that is perfect

Cheers all

Zysha

I have an alt or two who should be able to help out. The model seems good, although homins in small (1-2 homins) guilds may have a bit of trouble exchanging cats. We would need both people giving the hand outs around at the same time.

I am willing to sign an alt or two (don't know which ones) up, but I will be away doing RL things for two weeks in a couple of weeks time, so would probably not be the best choice for a HO or GL for the moment.