Ryzom

Vista RC1 / Ryzom Tech thread

Vista RC1 is now available for public beta consumption.

WARNING - Do Not use for your production equipment.

Vista is a very cool update/upgrade from WXP with nice eye candy.

Initial Test Config for Vista without Ryzom:

Asus P4P800D, 2.8 GHz P4, 1 Gig Ram, 36 G 10k RPM WD Sata 1 Drive, NVidia 64 Meg MX400 (AGP)

All driver base Vista Install, other than it wouldn't find the onboard NIC, so that driver was pulled of the MB insttal kit (WXP) After install and connectivity established all avilable patches and upgrades were pulled and deployed

Results - Vista ran fine as a base OS with this config, No fancy Aero but Aero Basic was available.

Config change to run Ryzom: Replace Videa card with an NVidea FX 5200 Ultra 128 Meg.

Ryzom installs fine (other than the annoying user protection stuff - this can be disabled - see ZD Net) Using older install kit and pulling patches.

Initial load of ryzom got to config and 1st load attempt of game fails do to no direct x support in Vista base install of NVidea Driver.

Pulled current Nvidea driver kit for proper OS from Nvidea and installed. Game started to the point of pulling 224 meg patches.

Ryzom Client fails during patch dl (we are pulling a fresh copy of Ryzom as this is being posted) This is likely do, in part, to the user protection initiative. Patches appear to be pulled in but all of it never makes it as evrytime the client is started it wants to pull the patches again.

It's likely that the user protection stuff is preventing it from being properly incorporated and based upon the below info proper permissions arn't available, though once it appeared to make it through all 224 meg of the patches.

After seemingly pulling the patches properly it presents the license screen at which point ryzom crashes with the following:

****************** Beginning of Crash Dump ***************

Access Violation exception generated at 0xA5592E, thread attempts to read at <NULL>.
The thread attempted to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
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Log with no filter:
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2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login.cpp 1377 : CAHSetReleaseNote called
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 9fc group_html.cpp 1522 : Browsing URL : 'http://atys.ryzom.com/releasenotes_ring ... ryzom_live'
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc group_html.cpp 2240 : WEB: GET 'http://atys.ryzom.com/releasenotes_ring ... ryzom_live'
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Checking file ended with no errors
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Processing file : gamedev.bnp
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Getting File : gamedev_00501.patch
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Getting File :http://88.191.23.36:40916/patch_live/ga ... 0501.patch -> ./unpack/gamedev_00501.patch
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Downloading File With Curl:./unpack/gamedev_00501.patch
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Getting File : gamedev_00501.patch
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Set file attributes :./unpack/gamedev_00501.patch
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Applying Delta : ./unpack/gamedev_00501.patch
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Delete file :./unpack/gamedev.bnp.tmp
2006/09/26 10:16:48 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Delete file (no file)
2006/09/26 10:16:59 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login_patch.cpp 481 : Delete file :./data/gamedev.bnp
2006/09/26 10:16:59 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN db4 path.cpp 2018 : PATH: Can't delete file './data/gamedev.bnp': 13 Permission denied
2006/09/26 10:16:59 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN db4 path.cpp 1797 : PATH: CopyMoveFile error: can't link/move './unpack/gamedev.bnp.tmp' into './data/gamedev.bnp'
2006/09/26 10:16:59 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF db4 common.cpp 557 : Exception will be launched: Can't rename file :./unpack/gamedev.bnp.tmp -> ./data/gamedev.bnp (13,Permission denied)
2006/09/26 10:16:59 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN db4 login_patch.cpp 1808 : EXCEPTION CATCH: CPatchThread::run() failed
2006/09/26 10:17:02 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login.cpp 1440 : CAHAcceptEula called
2006/09/26 10:17:02 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc login.cpp 1123 : ConnectToShard called
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3870 : 0 seconds for removeAllLinks
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3873 : 0 seconds for removeAllOptions
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3876 : 0 seconds for removeAllProcedures
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3879 : 0 seconds for removeAllDefines
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3882 : 0 seconds for removeAllTemplates
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3885 : 0 seconds for removeAllAnims
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3851 : 0 seconds for all unlinkAllContainers
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc libwww.cpp 215 : R:\code\ryzom\src_v2\client\interface_v3\group_html.cpp(1591) : LIBWWW HTRequest_kill returned a bad status
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3861 : 0 seconds for all delete _MasterGroups
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc interface_parser.cpp 3888 : 0 seconds for removeAllMasterGroups
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc client.cpp 484 : Login of Ryzom success
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc client.cpp 487 : Post-Login Init of Ryzom...
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc big_file.cpp 373 : BF: Couldn't load 'interfaces.bnp@loading_bg_0.dds'
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc texture_file.cpp 88 : Missing textureFile: loading_bg_0.tga
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc big_file.cpp 373 : BF: Couldn't load 'interfaces.bnp@loading_bg_1.dds'
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc texture_file.cpp 88 : Missing textureFile: loading_bg_1.tga
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc init.cpp 993 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (0 total) for Initializing network
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc init.cpp 1008 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (0 total) for Initializing chat manager
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc ligo_config.cpp 549 : Can't open the file for reading.
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc init.cpp 1021 : Can't load primitive class file
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc init.cpp 1026 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (0 total) for Initializing primitive classes
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 9fc audio_mixer_user.cpp 376 : AM: Init...
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 9fc dynloadlib.cpp 230 : Loading dynamic library 'nel_drv_fmod_win_rd.dll'
2006/09/26 10:17:03 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc load_form.h 901 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'sounds.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 10:17:04 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc load_form.h 973 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 10:17:04 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc audio_mixer_user.cpp 477 : Initialized audio mixer with 32 voices, WITHOUT EAX and with 16 bits PCM sample source.
2006/09/26 10:17:04 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc big_file.cpp 373 : BF: Couldn't load 'leveldesign.bnp@string.typ.'
2006/09/26 10:17:04 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc form.cpp 64 : NeL::Georges (CFormLoader::loadType) : Can't open the form file (string.typ).
2006/09/26 10:17:04 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 9fc common.cpp 557 : Exception will be launched: NeL::Georges (CFormDfn::read) in form DFN (mixer_config.dfn) : In XML block (ELEMENT) line 0, file not found string.typ.
2006/09/26 10:17:04 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc form.cpp 64 : NeL::Georges (CFormLoader::loadFormDfn) : Error while loading the form (mixer_config.dfn): NeL::Georges (CFormDfn::read) in form DFN (mixer_config.dfn) : In XML block (ELEMENT) line 0, file not found string.typ.
2006/09/26 10:17:04 client_ryzom_rd.exe WRN 9fc form.cpp 64 : NeL::Georges (CFormLoader::loadForm) : Can't open the dfn file (mixer_config.dfn).
-------------------------------
User Crash Callback:
-------------------------------
UserId: 4294967295
HomeId: 0
ShardId: 0
On a Mainland Shard
Application: ryzom_live
No user entity informations
ViewPosition: 0.00 0.00 0.00
Time in game: 11h 40min 43sec
LocalTime: 2006/09/26 10:17:04
ServerTick: 0
ConnectState: NotInitialised
LocalAddress: :0 (0.0.0.0)
Language: English
ClientVersion: 1.2.0.800
PatchVersion: 551
Client is online
NumServerHOP: 0
NumFarTP: 0
NumReselectPerso: 0
Connection Events:
Memory: 522MB/1022MB
Process Virtual Memory: 265MB
NeL Memory: 0B
OS: Unknown (Build 5600) (6.0 5600)
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz / x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 / GenuineIntel / 2798MHz / 2 Processors found
CPUID: bfebfbff
HT: YES
CpuMask: 1
NeL3D: OpenGL / NVIDIA Corporation / GeForce FX 5200 Ultra/PCI/SSE2 / 2.1.0
3DCard: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, version 9.6.3.3
Sound mixer:
Playing sources: 0
Available tracks: 32
Used tracks: 0
Muted sources: 0
Sources waiting for play: 0
HighestPri: 0 / 32
HighPri: 0 / 32
MidPri: 0 / 32
LowPri: 0 / 32
FreeTracks: 32 / 32
Average update time: 0.000000 msec
Average create time: 0.000000 msec
Estimated CPU: 0.000000%%
Sound driver:
FMod Driver
3d hw buffers: 32
2d hw buffers: 32
-------------------------------

**************** End of Crash Dump ***************

Have tried the compatability wizard to set ryzom to run as if under WXP (sp2) turned off last 2 items regarding Vista display issues, and set ryzom client to run as administrator and patches came in fine, though the user protection still wanted to know, when the client is started, if it should be alllowed to run at all. (Annoying as this is you can't have it both ways - protection and unfettered freedom are opposing concepts)

Regardless of settings (for compatability and any avialable in Ryzom config screens and intial client log in screens, ie low vs medium, normal, etc: Ryzom client crashes, after log in, endless patch pull loop on restart, after accepting license.

2nd test set will be to pull fresh full copy of Ryzom (hopefully all patches are incorporated) and turn off all User protections (per ZD Net's step by step instructions).

Once this second test bed is setup, another report will be posted here as a seperate message in this thread. Should the second test fail, we will try to upgrade the AGP card to a 256M card and then the onboard ram to 2 Gig.

Another round of tests will likely be presented in the future using Core 2 technology, which after the first of the year and into June of 07 should be mainstream on store shelves in the US.

Remember, RC1, in essence, is the Ultimate version and still very much beta, stable in many ways, but, stilll beta.

We understand fully the system Vista/Ryzom is being tested on, is toward the bottom of what Ryzom might run on, even with WXP, however, we run Ryzom flawlessly using this card on an even older Asus P4B533e MB with a 2.0 P4 and 1 Gig of ram on it.



Rovi
Arispotle
Fluffy Bunnies

2nd Test -
1. Fresh download of Ryzom
2. All UAC (user Access Control) is turned off per MS instructions at this link:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/window ... px#BKMK_S2

Results:

1. Fresh install went smoothly
2. Patches installed properly
3. All Vista Firewall is turned off; No AV installed
3. Ryzom client crashes with the following:

*************** Start of Crash Dump

Access Violation exception generated at 0x695D7586, thread attempts to read at <NULL>.
The thread attempted to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
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Log with no filter:
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2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/mission_icon.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/sbrick.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/sphrase.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/skill_tree.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/titles.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/succes_chances_table.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/automaton_list.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:50 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/animset_list.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/animation_fx.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/id_to_string_array.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/emot.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/forage_source.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/flora.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/animation_fx_set.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/attack_list.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/text_emotes.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/sky.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/outpost.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/outpost_building.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/outpost_squad.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 188 : loadForm(): Loading packed file 'data/faction.packed_sheets'
2006/09/26 14:36:51 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc load_form.h 260 : Don't update the packed sheet with real sheet
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc init.cpp 1100 : PROFILE: 5 seconds (8 total) for Initializing sheets
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc init.cpp 1114 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (8 total) for Initializing bricks
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc init.cpp 1150 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (9 total) for Initializing Color Slot etc.
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc init.cpp 1175 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (9 total) for Initializing Movie Shooter
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc init.cpp 1190 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (9 total) for Initializing primitives
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc init.cpp 1209 : PROFILE: 0 seconds (9 total) for Executing cfg file start commands
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc init.cpp 1216 : PROFILE: 9 seconds for postlogInit
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc client.cpp 489 : Post-Login Init of Ryzom success
2006/09/26 14:36:52 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 6fc client.cpp 509 : Connection of Ryzom...
-------------------------------
User Crash Callback:
-------------------------------
UserId: 4294967295
HomeId: 0
ShardId: 0
On a Mainland Shard
Application: ryzom_live
No user entity informations
ViewPosition: 0.00 0.00 0.00
Time in game: 0h 6min 34sec
LocalTime: 2006/09/26 14:36:56
ServerTick: 0
ConnectState: NotInitialised
LocalAddress: :0 (0.0.0.0)
Language: English
ClientVersion: 1.2.0.800
PatchVersion: 551
Client is online
NumServerHOP: 0
NumFarTP: 0
NumReselectPerso: 0
Connection Events:
Memory: 478MB/1022MB
Process Virtual Memory: 302MB
NeL Memory: 0B
OS: Unknown (Build 5600) (6.0 5600)
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz / x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 / GenuineIntel / 2798MHz / 2 Processors found
CPUID: bfebfbff
HT: YES
CpuMask: 1
NeL3D: OpenGL / NVIDIA Corporation / GeForce FX 5200 Ultra/PCI/SSE2 / 2.1.0
3DCard: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, version 9.6.3.3
Sound mixer:
Playing sources: 0
Available tracks: 32
Used tracks: 0
Muted sources: 0
Sources waiting for play: 0
HighestPri: 0 / 2
HighPri: 0 / 4
MidPri: 0 / 6
LowPri: 0 / 8
FreeTracks: 32 / 32
Average update time: 0.000001 msec
Average create time: 0.000000 msec
Estimated CPU: 0.000099%%
Sound driver:
FMod Driver
3d hw buffers: 32
2d hw buffers: 32
-------------------------------


********* End of Crash Dump *****************

Crash occurs at the same place - at log in after clicking connect to the game to get to character selection screen. The loading graphics are fine until the crash then the graphic goes away and the debug screen comes up do to the client crash.

Though the end result is the same it seems to be a much cleaner crash. No message about nvidea driver recovering from stopped state, no info back from Vista about setting the video back to Aero basic. Aero is still in it's highest functioning mode.

This is without using the "compatability" wizard.

The char select screen is when the gfx go into full effect. The launch and intermediary screens are not the same level of effect. Hence why you crash at that point. The 5200 was not exactly the peppiest card around when it came out, let alone now. Forcing the thing to run Aero shell and then Ryzom is asking way too much from it. My wife's laptop has a P4 3.4 GHz and an FX 5700 with 128 MB and I wouldn't even think of trying Vista on it, let alone running a high end game like Ryzom on top of Aero shell.

Plus you have too little RAM to run Vista and Ryzom even remotely well. Ryzom will use 800 MB of RAM if allowed to (that is with full gfx and in Fairhaven) on an ATI Radeon 9800 XT. Which is not even up to par for running Aero very well according to Vista compatibility.

Oddly, I hardly have a good comp but Ryzom is one of the few games I have no problems with whatsoever in Vista. The only advice I would give you is to ensure you have a seperate install of SoR because of permissions.

Vguerin - We have turned off all UAC and have done a fresh reinstall of Ryzom. We have also made certain all permissions on the Ryzom client are set to full control.

1. What is your hardware config your running on. Specifically what MoBo/CPU/Ram/Video Card model and Ram (AGP/PCIe).

2. Did you turn off UAC before the install, if not UAC would have controlled the installation. If not what steps did you take to install it and change permissions for Ryzom after the install. (my first crash dump report [pre UAC disable] showed permissions errors the second crash dump after a fresh install does not show permission errors [post UAC disable] - Other than "Access Violation exception generated at 0x695D7586, thread attempts to read at <NULL>.
The thread attempted to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
the writing to virtual memory space")

3. Are you running Vista RC1 or some previous beta, and what do you mean by "a seperate install of Ryzom (SoR)".

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Zerlin - Thanks for the input.

A. After my last crash post we put 2 Gig ram in the box and the results are the same.

B. We have Ryzom running under WinXP Pro on an Asus P4B533, 2.0 Ghz P4, 1 Gig ram with the same 5200 Ultra Card.

C. I've just tested Ryzom on the same system mentioned in "B" above, substituting an Nvidia MX 440 with 64 meg ram, which was the video card used during the initial Vista install, though certainly inadequate for Aero (other than Aero basic) and Ryzom loads fine and amazingly once it settled down runs at least acceptably.


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I appreciate all the input, it was my intention to get some insight into this for both the Ryzom Devs/Support/GMs/User community.

Certainly this is an early attempt, pre-release of Vista, to get the game many of us are border line manic over; running under the next MS OS. In the interest of that I saved my attempt until Vista RC1 and its open public beta.

Vista is at least glitzier than WXP with very cool eye candy (IMHO); any technical improvements remain to be seen; however, regardless this OS will be unleashed on us, and at some very quick point the Retailers won't sell anything off the shelf that doesn't have Vista on it.

I have been in IT since 1986, our anticipation is that within apx. 6 mos of Vista's official release this will likely be the case; and no I'm not an MS FanBoy.

I, and anyone else trying to do this now and after Vista is released, would very much appreciate those that have been sucessful doing this to please post the basics on what hardware they are running on (please see my question to vguerin for more info on his hardware), which version of Vista, and how Ryzom was implimented under Vista, ie UAC disabled or not and what permissions they changed and where, Aero disabled or not.

I'm not attempting to push Vista, but as a practical reality when an RC1 is available; the train is almost at the station.

From the standpoint of what drives this train, doing this at Vista's RC1 should help the Ryzom community by the time Vista is released, and though the final release may break it again, we will have had a jump start on if it ever worked, if so what hardware and techniques have worked for others to get it working.

Until Vguerin's post I didn't know anyone had gotten it working yet, so once he adds info as to what hardware he's running on and how he did it, I may also be able to get it running and so might others also wishing to do so.

Case in point, if he's running a $100 video card and everything else is apx the same generation, I might be inclined to buy the Vid Card he's running. If it still works for him and not for me then we have something to hone in on that might get it working for me. Because there may be out of pocket expense to do so, please, only those that can afford such an adventure should undertake it.

It should also help to establish a likely minimum baseline for a successful implementation of Ryzom, post Vista Release.

End of today's Vista/Ryzom Beta test Public Service Announcement!

8^)

Rovi
Arispotle
Fluffy Bunnies

Nothing fancy here, a Compaq that was cheap with some of my old components thrown in and 1.5G of RAM. I only run Vista (system in dual boot mode) on Sundays to update and test things out until more of my toys work in Vista, that's all I use it for.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer Compaq Presario 061
System Model EL424AA-ABA SR1703WM NA610
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 47 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1790 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies, LTD 3.13, 11/15/2005
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
User Name
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 1,536.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 915.96 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.95 GB
Page File Space 4.50 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
---------------
Display Devices
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Card name: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Xpress Series (0x5954)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5954&SUBSYS_2A26103C&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1152 x 864 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: SyncMaster 905DF(X)/955DF(X), SyncMaster Magic CD195A(P)

As stated in first post, I had a working copy of SoR I copied into another folder for my Vista install. This way any permissions set from Vista will not interfere with my XP version. Since SoR is not heavily dependant on the registry for settings it's the easiest way to do it.

vguerin wrote:Nothing fancy here, a Compaq that was cheap with some of my old components thrown in and 1.5G of RAM. I only run Vista (system in dual boot mode) on Sundays to update and test things out until more of my toys work in Vista, that's all I use it for.

Ok but:

What vid card is in it, or is it built in onboard?

and.

Which version of Vista, since the report shows it's WXP Home, is it RC1?

and..

How did you set permissions?

and...

Did you somehow turn off Aero Standard and set video to say classic?

Also, the first difference I see is that this is an AMD CPU, it shouldn't matter but you never know, and a google search of the model shows it, amazingly, may even be a semperon?!?.

It's very cool it runs, problem is how or what have you done differently than I am in installing it to get it to run.

Only problem I had was Open GL crash message.
Ran the configurator and changed from auto to Directx.... all seems fine now

the MX 400 card has no vertex and pixel shaders .... maybe you could try logging in with that turned off and see .

Ryzom works just fine here in vista (with aero glass enabled)...
Read this post: http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.p ... 679&page=2

Vista Build 5728
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 2GHz
BFG GeForce 6800 GT OC
1,5 GB RAM