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Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:50 pm
by velosi
New player here, loving the game a great deal!

Today in Universe chat, there we people openly bashing my personal political views (I didn't initiate the topic, nor reply in any way).

It is my opinion that an MMORPG is the LAST place for real life political/religious/sexual-preference agendas. One of the reasons I enjoy playing online, is to -escape- real life trivialities (& not-so-trivial issues).

While I doubt this will be honored (& actually rather expect it to be bashed/flamed)...I just beseach anyone who reads this to leave real-life at the log in screen & leave the political/religious/philosophical debates & agendas out of Universe/Regional chat.

I know I can just /ignore whoever I wish to ignore, but I thought I'd just post this in hopes of bringing awareness to the fact that we are a cross-section of society (a microcosm, if thats not too presumptuous)...and the real-life beliefs you are bashing may well ostrasize people who otherwise might wind up being your friends/teammates/guildmates in the future.

*shrugs*

Me

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:02 am
by sprite
I 100% agree.. and if there's any serious "bashing" going on (ie bad language/whatever) then a friendly comment or even a /tell to a GM might be in order to remind people that Universe is there for newer players to get help from more experienced ones.

I'm glad to hear that you're loving the game, and with regard to your 2nd to last paragraph, I hope you will come to find that we all care a great deal about our community :D

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:02 am
by chessack
I know the feeling.

I haven't seen it in Ryzom... But in COH, my supergroup is made up of about 10 people. Of those, I have no idea what the political views are of about 5 of them. They just don't speak about politicis in game (which I like -- neither do I).

The others have views diametrically opposed to mine... and they are very vocal. I have to sometimes sit and watch long, drawn out festivals where three or four of them flame the daylights out of the opposing viewpoint. I could, of course, present cogent, well-reasoned arguments for "my side" if I wanted to (it's not really my side, since I hate all major political parties, but given the choice of 2 positions, neither of which is ideal, I tend to usually come down on one of the sides). But I really don't want to get into a political argument in game.

So I just stay quiet about it... and we are friends otherwise. But I really hate when this stuff gets dragged into the game. I hear enough of it in real life. A few times I actually logged out because I just didn't want to see the flames anymore. And that is not where you want to be in a game.

So yes, I agree... Especially given the international nature of the community and how unlikely it is that people from such different countries and national philosophies are going to agree, it's best to just keep that out of it.

After all we know we agree on one thing: we like Ryzom! Let's talk about that. :)

C

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:52 am
by pugmak
I fully agree with all the above as well.

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:00 am
by jamela
I agree too. I can't help but be reminded of the council meetings for the Peoples' Front of Judaea, though. Or was it the Judaean Peoples' Front?

Welcome to Atys, Velosi :) *hugs*
I don't think I ever came across any RL political/religious/gender-related region chat, and I hope you never will again, either. Universe channel is reserved for people in need of help, however (no offense intended for people using it to ask about Ryzom related issues).

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:25 pm
by odyvek
Totally agree with you there, there is no place of rl politics discussions in any mmo. Besides there are enough of ingame politics you could spend hours rp debating to keep any politician a happy puppy :p . And yes Universe channel is reserved for Q&A of ingame content. So anyone has a right to tell shush to such a discussion, or send a /tell to gm, in the more severe cases.
Take care and see you in Atys.
*huggles*

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:29 pm
by acridiel
Absolutely agreed.

How come the GMs let this go on?
Sorry to say that but here on Leanon this "discussion" wouldn´t have gone on for more than a few sentences before a GM or SG would´ve stepped in.
*shakes head*

I realy don´t want to bash into the GMs now, but I do see a huge differnece in how some of Nevrax Rules are handled between the Servers, fom many of the comments on these Forums.
I wonder why that is the case?
I think its sad :(

CU
Acridiel

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:35 pm
by greymar
The GMs here in Ryzom are the best in any MMO I've seen.... if you see such stuff happening, put a ticket in, and a GM will most likely stomp on it with really big boots really fast.

Don't let the morons get to ya... we have our share in Ryzom, but generally, fewer than anywhere else.

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:48 pm
by tannack
acridiel wrote:Absolutely agreed.

How come the GMs let this go on?
Sorry to say that but here on Leanon this "discussion" wouldn´t have gone on for more than a few sentences before a GM or SG would´ve stepped in.
*shakes head*
There's one other thing that I find a little puzzling about this. It should be patently obvious from the amount of off topic conversations that break out in Universe that there is a crying need for a server wide general chat channel.

I'd have to say that there have been times on Arispotle when GM's have had to step in several times an hour because OT conversations break out.

Before you say "No - we don't want or need it." read the paragraph immediately above a second time. People DO want this, because they're using Universe now.

So is there any chance we can get this channel set up please?

Re: Anti-Real Life Universe/Regional Chattage

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:14 am
by acridiel
Why, thank you for putting my words out of context and using them against me :p

Well, Arispotle may need something like this. But it seems Leanon is contend the way it is now. Havent seen anything like the above mentioned ever.
And by "steping in" I mean that the GMs would reimnd the spammers, that Universe is intended to be a help channel.

apart from this, I can only guess why it´s "only" a Help Channel, but it seems to me that people would be fine with both.
It´s deactivatable, so everyone who does not want to be spammed by it, deactivate it. *shrug*
But Nevrax surely had their reasons for making it "only" a help channel.

CU
Acridiel