Page 1 of 3

Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:51 pm
by wesdbest
First off, I'd like to say that I used to play WoW...

*takes flaming*

I was part of a PvE end game raiding guild who also PvP'd quite a bit. I enjoyed the PvP more than the PvE. I still enjoy PvP on WoW, but I do not enjoy how the Battlegrounds are set up. IMHO it gets very repetitive after a while. Im sure many people here remember when world PvP in WoW was fun and you didn't have to worry about dishonorable kills and such. Anyways, I'm looking for a game (hopefully Ryzom) that will give me and my RL buds something different as far as PvP is concerned. We will definitely be up for some PvE action if the prospect guild is into that, but we are PvPers by heart, and we enjoy the dynamic challenge that only real people can offer us.

We've all made new chars on the newbie island using the free trial and I personally have thoroughly enjoyed the experience so far. Everyone seems friendly and this is the best game we've tried out so far after stopping playing WoW. Now that we've come to the conclusion that this game could be the next big game we take on seriously, I felt it was time to get some questions answered that we could not get answered on Newbie island...

Just FYI, I've read both the FAQ's and a good bit of forum posts, but I feel that the best and most accurate answers come from the experienced players themselves.

1. Does this game have an ACTIVE PvP scene where there is non-stop, 24/7, intense PvP action? If not, what is the level of PvP on this game? Is it only in primetime hours of the day? Only on certain days?

2. How does most PvP occur? Is it mostly in the Prime Roots? Is it mostly between guild-owned outposts?

3. Whats the rough percentage of players who actually PvP regularly (daily)? Is there only 3 or 4 dominant PvP guilds on the server? I took a look at the guild listing... and errr... to be honest it didn't look very populated (mabye its just outdated).

4. In Ryzom is it possible to log on after work (7 est) and be able to group up with your guildies and join some PvP action almost every day of the week?

5. How balanced is PvP in general between players? Will a mage totally destroy a warrior everytime (I know theres not classes in this game, so by "mage" i mean "highly leveled offensive magic guy" and "warrior" "highly leveled melee fighter")? Is it mostly based on individual skill, level of character, group makeup, or rock/paper/scissors class vs class?

6. How big of a difference does character level make in PvP? I've heard that it takes a LONG time to level your combat skills to 250. Will I be "gimped" by being say... around level 100? 175? 225? Does PvP really start at level 250? Or just whenever you feel like PvPing? I imagine most PvP guilds have members near the 250 mark in their combat skills... do most PvP guilds have a level requirement for joining?

7. By the time I reach a level that I can actually start doing some serious GvG PvP, will the PvP scene in Ryzom be dead? Is this game too old to be worth it for newcome PvPers? I know no one can tell if PvP will be dead or not, again, I'm just looking for opinions.

8. Last but certainly not least... after reading all of this: Do you think that this game is the right game for me and my friends? I know that nobody can tell if another player will truly enjoy a game, I'm just asking your honest OPINION.

I would esepicially enjoy reading posts from people who've made the switch from WoW PvP to Ryzom PvP and have some extensive knowledge into both game's PvP systems and are able to compare and contrast the two.

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:58 pm
by sx4rlet
Mmmm, you already posted this in the guilds section...

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:00 pm
by wesdbest
sx4rlet wrote:Mmmm, you already posted this in the guilds section...
I know but as I reread it I realized this had nothing to do with guilds so I posted it here... then I went to the guild forum and I cant figure out how to delete threads :(

/sorry

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:15 pm
by raven41
*points at Sxarlet's Avitar* I want one of those! How and where did you get it o.o *jealous* >.> I see ppl with them all the time (Of there own chars ofc not yours :p ) and I want one >.<

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:18 pm
by katriell
raven41 wrote:*points at Sxarlet's Avitar* I want one of those! How and where did you get it o.o *jealous* >.> I see ppl with them all the time (Of there own chars ofc not yours :p ) and I want one >.<
Ema / geasa, I think. :)

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:19 pm
by raven41
:p ... ok .. next Q! how can I get ahold of them to get one? :P (would they make me one?o.o)

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:22 pm
by sx4rlet
raven41 wrote:*points at Sxarlet's Avitar* I want one of those! How and where did you get it o.o *jealous* >.> I see ppl with them all the time (Of there own chars ofc not yours :p ) and I want one >.<
Np, Wesdbest, and sorry for hijacking your post by answering Redslayer.

Ema makes those Avatars, or rather she paints our whole toons. You can find her gallery of ryzom avatars here: Gallery
If you ask Ema nicely, she might want to make one for you. Or she might not, that is up to her.


and just to pimp mine ;)
Sxars

Ok, back to Wesdbests questions!

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:23 pm
by katriell
raven41 wrote: :p ... ok .. next Q! how can I get ahold of them to get one? :P (would they make me one?o.o)
I would guess just PM geasa on this forum.

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:48 pm
by raven41
K thanks guys... Now on topic :P I'll answer what I can.

wesdbest wrote:1. Does this game have an ACTIVE PvP scene where there is non-stop, 24/7, intense PvP action? If not, what is the level of PvP on this game? Is it only in primetime hours of the day? Only on certain days
No...No non stop PvP here... There is battle at Yrk (Capital of the Matis lands) Often,but not 24/7... Other then that there is "Out Post" which is large scale PvP,But they are also only on occasion not daily
wesdbest wrote:2. How does most PvP occur? Is it mostly in the Prime Roots? Is it mostly between guild-owned outposts?
I never goto PR unless I am trekking... Most PvP I do is in Yrk and OPs.
wesdbest wrote:3. Whats the rough percentage of players who actually PvP regularly (daily)? Is there only 3 or 4 dominant PvP guilds on the server? I took a look at the guild listing... and errr... to be honest it didn't look very populated (mabye its just outdated).
Its not outdated as far as I know... There is not that many who PvP daily that I know of. (I know I don't)
wesdbest wrote:4. In Ryzom is it possible to log on after work (7 est) and be able to group up with your guildies and join some PvP action almost every day of the week?
I am sure you could cause PvP by going to Yrk if you really wanted :p
wesdbest wrote:5. How balanced is PvP in general between players? Will a mage totally destroy a warrior everytime (I know theres not classes in this game, so by "mage" i mean "highly leveled offensive magic guy" and "warrior" "highly leveled melee fighter")? Is it mostly based on individual skill, level of character, group makeup, or rock/paper/scissors class vs class?
Melee "owns" at close range but at long range mage wins... It evens out.(But I personally think melee is better *IF* you have good magic resist)
wesdbest wrote:6. How big of a difference does character level make in PvP? I've heard that it takes a LONG time to level your combat skills to 250. Will I be "gimped" by being say... around level 100? 175? 225? Does PvP really start at level 250? Or just whenever you feel like PvPing? I imagine most PvP guilds have members near the 250 mark in their combat skills... do most PvP guilds have a level requirement for joining?
I don't know about the requirement because I have been in the same guild fro almost my entire time ingame (- the first 3 weeks 2 on starter isle and 1 in a different guild) But a 250 will beat a 200 in almost all cases that I know of.
wesdbest wrote:7. By the time I reach a level that I can actually start doing some serious GvG PvP, will the PvP scene in Ryzom be dead? Is this game too old to be worth it for newcome PvPers? I know no one can tell if PvP will be dead or not, again, I'm just looking for opinions.
I don't know the answer to that... But I doubt it will be "dead"
wesdbest wrote:8. Last but certainly not least... after reading all of this: Do you think that this game is the right game for me and my friends? I know that nobody can tell if another player will truly enjoy a game, I'm just asking your honest OPINION.
... If you are looking for a place where there is 24/7 PvP ... No I don't think this game is for you... But if you can live with occasional PvP (or start your own in Yrk) then you will be fine ;)
wesdbest wrote:I would especially enjoy reading posts from people who've made the switch from WoW PvP to Ryzom PvP and have some extensive knowledge into both game's PvP systems and are able to compare and contrast the two.


I played WoW for alittle while(Just to see what the hype was all about)But it was't really for me... I like it much better here :P .. But I like PvP (as long as its fun and not flame wars)

[edit]-- Oh and sorry for the off topic post :p

Re: Questions about PvP and PvP guilds

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:12 pm
by wesdbest
Thanks for the replies, hopefully more people will reply with their thoughts and opinions.