Ryzom

Hi, now me and my wife have played the newplayer island and it was wonderful, but we moved to the mainland and found storyline and roleplay and things to draw you in sadly lacking.

But its already becoming a grind.

Before answering please read the following

1)I and my wife, love grouping together, fighting together and exploring together and we like to do it all BUT we don't mesh well with other groups because fighting together etc we are 3 ft away from each other we don't need to chat in game.

2)Although we like to socialize, we don't want to join a guild, we usually rp loners etc, which may seem silly in a massively multiplayer online game but its how we best enjoy ourselves.

Everything mainland seems to be focused towards guilds etc and we just don't feel gripped, as a casual player as in non uber guild non power gamer is it for us ?

Can 2 people fit into this game and get as much out of it as a guild or outpost owner, is there life on Atys for us or will we be second class citizens ?

I know quite a few husband/wife teams out there in the wide world of Atys, and they seem to enjoy themselves quite a lot. The game is definitely geared towards social contact though...I personally couldn't live without lots of the people in this game. Having said that, I also know a couple of people that RP loners, and they enjoy the game just fine

You could always start a duo guild, just for the two of you, as there are benefits, like the 10,000 bulk Guildhalls you can buy

All I can suggest is to try it. This isn't really a game about who has the highest levels at all, it's just about enjoying yourself. It ain't no WoW.

EDIT: Just noticed your outpost comment. Outposts aren't essential by any means. My previous guild, The Samsara, actually sold their Outpost because we'd had enough of the PvP/Politics it forced upon us. I've lived and played without an Outpost now for months, and I don't really miss it.

To be honest, I think you're not seeing the storyline and roleplay because roleplay occurs inside guilds for the most part. Storyline is advanced via live events, which you must...well, attend to experience. XD

By the way, let me (Jelathnia) know if you two need any Elevation Crystals. I'll give them to you for free.

lixivium wrote: 1)I and my wife, love grouping together, fighting together and exploring together and we like to do it all BUT we don't mesh well with other groups because fighting together etc we are 3 ft away from each other we don't need to chat in game.

2)Although we like to socialize, we don't want to join a guild, we usually rp loners etc, which may seem silly in a massively multiplayer online game but its how we best enjoy ourselves.

Everything mainland seems to be focused towards guilds etc and we just don't feel gripped, as a casual player as in non uber guild non power gamer is it for us ?

Can 2 people fit into this game and get as much out of it as a guild or outpost owner, is there life on Atys for us or will we be second class citizens ?

Hello

sitting side by side is no bigger problem that half a team that uses teamspeak or ventrilo, so you just may want to inform the other members of the team too, if you notice that you are ambushed by a pack of ragus

Go and found your own guild. Guildsize does not really matter, you will find your place on Atys. There were times where I was the only active member of my guild, but you will find friends outside your guild.

Welcome to the mainland
Trini

Me and my husband play together. He sits about 5 foot in front of me. Most people by now know that we're in the same room and don't chat to each other in game. We're both in the same guild and we do things together and with the guild without any problems.

The fact you're in the same room really shouldn't be a problem. Heck it should help. I'm sure there's been many a time the team butt has been saved cause one of us was able to jsut call to the other instead of typing. The only real impact should be a positive one.

Alot of RP does happen in guild chats. That is the casual talking RP does anyhow. Nevrax runs alot of events though. Usually one a weekend at least. Usually plenty of RP there. Or the RP Pub Nights my own guild runs every other week. Or the other guild and player run RP events run. Keep an eye on the Saga section of these forums and you'l find plenty of RP events. But you can always RP in the region chat. Alot of people will play along with you.

The game is a social one. Doubly so I think sometimes for Ryzom. The community is a big thing here and I think sometimes that builds from the guilds themselves. There's a guild out there for everyone or take Trini's advice, start your own guild.

lixivium wrote:1)I and my wife, love grouping together, fighting together and exploring together and we like to do it all BUT we don't mesh well with other groups because fighting together etc we are 3 ft away from each other we don't need to chat in game.

Married couples are quite common on Atys and fit in just fine. For awhile, my guild had three separate married couples at once.

lixivium wrote: Can 2 people fit into this game and get as much out of it as a guild or outpost owner, is there life on Atys for us or will we be second class citizens ?

Let me chime in, just to elaborate a bit on this last point that affects me specially. Although what other posters said stands true, there is plenty of opportunitites to be in a small even solo guild, as I am.

Not that I really planned like this (a few factors influenced) but I am in a solo guild and it's perfectly possible, fun and enjoyable, both from an IG/Roleplay point of view as from a game mechanic, and has both advantages and drawbacks and it's aperfectly valid playstyle.

In my case, I kinda roleplay a devoted Jena follower -- although I did not put a lot of effort on my background--, something sort of a second class priestess (lack of a better term) that is on her own, likes to have full control of deeds and consequences and does not report to anyone. In gameplay terms it can also mean that at the long term, I would like to be somehow self-sustained in economical and crafting terms.

This does not preclude the ability to interact with other players and guilds, know them, and enjoy it, it is even required, since you are the only one in the guild

Granted, as a solo guild, I won't be in a position to have an outpost, (not for the moment unless special circumstances) and you have to do an extra effort or it could feel you are playing alone.

Let me add to the chorus. I RP a loner, completely. My spouse does not play this or any other game, its just not her "thing". I also play at rather odd times, and often find myself on my own. I've soloed almost everything I have, except Healing (which requires a team, but not a guild), and have teamed with many husband/wife duos who don't chat much,(which suits me ust fine).

I did eventually join a guild (Samsara), and enjoy occasionally joiing in with Guild activities. There's a couple of us with oddball hours who seem to find ourselves at loose ends together fairly frequently.

I'm not into PvP stuff, so tend to avoid that, which also fits with being a loner. I like to Craft stuff, and have a goal of truly mastering the crafting skills some day. I also like "bashing bugs" occasionally, and may eventually get one of my melee skills above 200 (not holding my breath ).

I've considered eventually starting my own guild, but just don't have the Dapper to buy a guild hall ATT. It'll probably be a while.

All in All, if you enjoy the things the game has to offer, palying Solo or as a duo is entirely doable and enjoyable.

Roleplaying is one of my favorite pass times and I find that Atys is abundant with roleplayers. I play several characters some are known and others don’t even know it’s me. I’ve done the soloing character and have enjoyed it but I’m more of a team player and prefer the gilded life. Joining a guild is not a requirement to enjoy the game and neither is being Karavan, Kami or Neutral. Why most time a hunting team is a mix group.

The grind is the same in any game. If you want to be the best in any skill you have to grind for it. It is after all a game. Fact is that if you are bored with one skill then move to another. There are enough skills to choose from, you know. It all depends on how one wants to play the game.

I know several couples that play and they do very well for themselves. I think you and your better half will find plenty to do to enjoy the game. It’s not hard to start your own guild even if it’s only for the two of you. If I had my boyfriend playing like he used to, then maybe things would be different and the guild I started would be an active guild.

The main idea, at least to me, is to find where one fits in. It took me almost a year to find that I preferred the desert to the lakes and that my future was with the Kamis. Now as a Tryker this is a big change and honestly it was a great journey for me. I met many friends and even made some enemies but the fact is I found my home. The rest will fall into place once you realize where it is you feel at home.

I think the main disappointment is coming from the mainland and realizing that here is a total different game. The ruins are not a place for grinding and only meant to teach refugees the skills and game mechanics. The ruins are fun yes and I’ve learned from there plenty but it does not give the full scope of Atys. But don’t be discourage, there are many homins about who are friendly and would not mind taking time to show you the digging spots, show you around Atys, help with jewels, armor, weapons etc. All you need is to ask.

Good luck and I hope to meet you and your wife someday soon.