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Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:40 pm
by edbock
I play the Tryker Be'Keeer Neppie, who's still on Tryker Island. (Living is good on Tryker Island and she wants to be able to hold her own before hitching a ride to Fairhaven courtesy of the Karavan.)
However, the Karavaneers are disciples of Jena and Be'Keeer is quite ignorant of Jena which is a flaw that needs to be corrected.
From an RP-point of view, apart from the good living on Tryker Island, Be'Keeer's ignorance of Jena is keeping her from using the services of the Karavan.
What I'm looking for is teachings of Jena through a Homin's eyes, not dry subject matter. Be'Keeer is not exactly a shining example of higher learning, but she's practical in a linear way (If you can't avoid it, whack it) what means that if she learns to do one thing in a certain way she won't look for ways to it differently (If it ain't broken, don't fix it). She can have remarkable insights however.
Please enlighten little Be'Keeer!
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:02 pm
by sliim
If you manage to get any, try and get me her phone number would you? xD
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:33 pm
by shadowweb
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:00 pm
by d29565
A lot of information on Jena and being karavan is given at the karavan temple in both the matisian lands and tryker lands. Ask in region, and I'm sure someone will point you in the direction of the nearest temple. In the tryker lands, I believe there is one outside of Fairhaven. And in the matisian lands, there is a temple outside of Yrkanis. Hope this helps some.
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:45 pm
by calel
/ OOC:
For that she already has to be on the mainland Keiko.
I might point out to you though edbock, that when you ask a homin' s point of view on Jena' s teachings you might get a fair few different oppinions on the Commandments or the Flanagan Files or just the lore.
The way the majority of the Matisian society look at it is very different from the Tryker society which would again be a huge difference from those rare Fyrosians or Zorai that would bathe in the Light of the Lady. Even in each civilisation there are very different views and interpretations; sometimes even conflicting.
The prime example would be the schism in reverence of the Karavan itself by Matis and Trykers. Whereas Matisian society through the ages accepts both Jena and Karavan to be one and the same, Tryker society is very reluctant to accept the Karavan as anything more than powerfull allies, yet Jenaïsm is their accepted 'state- religion'.
The second example would be the view on Elias Tryton; according to the Karavan to be a blasphemous cult and possibly a grave danger if not supressed, which would be more than likely agreed on by Matisian society; the Tryker society sees Elias Tryton as their Holy Father, husband of Jena (all good things in Tryker customs and lore come in pairs), and although the Karavan forbids it' s worship in the Lakelands, Tryker government turns a blind eye to it as it just might have been true he is Jena' s husband.
That being said, I hope there' s some who play Jenaïtes and/or Karavaneers willing to share the personal view of their avatar on the matter so you can sift and decide on a way to interpret the teachings yourself.
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:47 pm
by edbock
d29565 wrote: A lot of information on Jena and being karavan is given at the karavan temple in both the matisian lands and tryker lands. Ask in region, and I'm sure someone will point you in the direction of the nearest temple. In the tryker lands, I believe there is one outside of Fairhaven. And in the matisian lands, there is a temple outside of Yrkanis. Hope this helps some.
Thank you, that'll surely help Be'Keeer. Jena-ism sounds very interesting to me.
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:50 pm
by edbock
calel wrote:/ OOC:
For that she already has to be on the mainland Keiko.
I might point out to you though edbock, that when you ask a homin' s point of view on Jena' s teachings you might get a fair few different oppinions on the Commandments or the Flanagan Files or just the lore.
The way the majority of the Matisian society look at it is very different from the Tryker society which would again be a huge difference from those rare Fyrosians or Zorai that would bathe in the Light of the Lady. Even in each civilisation there are very different views and interpretations; sometimes even conflicting.
The prime example would be the schism in reverence of the Karavan itself by Matis and Trykers. Whereas Matisian society through the ages accepts both Jena and Karavan to be one and the same, Tryker society is very reluctant to accept the Karavan as anything more than powerfull allies, yet Jenaïsm is their accepted 'state- religion'.
The second example would be the view on Elias Tryton; according to the Karavan to be a blasphemous cult and possibly a grave danger if not supressed, which would be more than likely agreed on by Matisian society; the Tryker society sees Elias Tryton as their Holy Father, husband of Jena (all good things in Tryker customs and lore come in pairs), and although the Karavan forbids it' s worship in the Lakelands, Tryker government turns a blind eye to it as it just might have been true he is Jena' s husband.
That being said, I hope there' s some who play Jenaïtes and/or Karavaneers willing to share the personal view of their avatar on the matter so you can sift and decide on a way to interpret the teachings yourself.
[(All good things in Tryker customs and lore comes in pairs)]
This is a great passage. I like that very much.
Also, your reply is a very interesting read. Cheers!
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:57 pm
by edbock
Thanks Shadow for the link.
But without wanting to be too theosophical on the matter, in the world blindly following the Ten Commandments does not make one a good Christian if otherwise ignorant of the Christian religeon.
Ryzom-wise Jena-ism is too interesting and depthgiving that it would be a shame to condense it in do's and don't's...
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:32 pm
by danolt
My take on Jena is that her fundamental scriptures have been lost to us. That we are descended from fallen Homins who abandoned Jena in search of a paradise created by a deceiver. We are now in the process of redemption. She is giving us yet another chance to reunite with our brethren. We must get off this living planet before it corrupts all of our souls and enslave us for eternity.
The only text we have of Jenas teachings that is pure is the commandments. A few weeks ago I posted how i see them doctrinally.
Http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21201
Pero
Re: Is there more information on the Goddess Jena?
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:20 pm
by nielson
It has been rumored that Jena eats homin babies. Be cautious and always keep an eye on her.