Moons, Minerals, Atysology

[khyle]

over here: A closed ecology doesn't need any additional nutrients, just energy. Earth's life ultimately gets all their energy from the sun. Then Atys also has that big gas planet in the sky, apparently pretty close. Jupiter's moon Io, being very close to the planet, has vulcanic activity as a result of the energy delivered to it by Jupiter's tidal forces. Thirdly, look up at the sky of Atys, and it looks like a meteor shower rages every day there, probably coming from the gas planet's ring. So I think Atys receives plenty of energy.

Come to think of it, wouldn't those meteors deposit minerals on Atys?

Now that you say it, wouldn't bones and shells etc. be composed of minerals anyway?
We're told the "sand" is in fact "sawdust" - OK, fine with me; but doesn't every living organism require minerals to live and grow? I think this might have been some misunderstanding or a forced answer by someone... it is obvious that there is no elemental metal on Atys, at least not in the hands of homins (what the karavan artefacts are made of... who knows? )
But to state there are no minerals whatsoever... I think there's a misconception here that needs to be corrected?!

As a crystalline solid, ice is considered a mineral.

[katriell]

Alien life forms may not require minerals.

[tylarth]

Think the 'no minerals' is more there being no significant or even minor mineral deposits. Certainly nothing sufficient to manipulate from a homin perspective, no stone or pebbles, no metals. But there are 'minerals' in the bio-chemistry, just nothing from geological chemistry, as there is no geological chemistry, except maybe in the real inner core of atys. (hmm wonder how more effective a metal weapon/armour is compared to Atys organic items?)

[kaetemi]

We're told the "sand" is in fact "sawdust" - OK, fine with me; but doesn't every living organism require minerals to live and grow?

Maybe they're bones made of wood?

[lemoi]

Now that you say it, wouldn't bones and shells etc. be composed of minerals anyway?
We're told the "sand" is in fact "sawdust" - OK, fine with me; but doesn't every living organism require minerals to live and grow? I think this might have been some misunderstanding or a forced answer by someone... it is obvious that there is no elemental metal on Atys, at least not in the hands of homins (what the karavan artefacts are made of... who knows? )
But to state there are no minerals whatsoever... I think there's a misconception here that needs to be corrected?!

As a crystalline solid, ice is considered a mineral.

I've been meaning to post something about all this, not only here but at the other threads similar to this one... But procrastination always wins

Anyways, the short answer is: Atys is an impossibility, an impossibility that can only be within it's own realm.

Now, I'll be posting the long version later; don't do it right now not because of procrastination, but because I have to go back to work Lunch hour is over... EVISCERATE THE PROLETARIAT!!!

Now, what the dev said that there are no metals or no minerals? I don't remember que exact quote and don't have time right now to look for it (I'm sure someone here knows where it is exactly)... It doesn't really matters either way, a living planet w/o either one of them is impossible (Living as in inhabited that is, but I will go in to that later)

[iwojimmy]

I never did like the Fyros-is-made-of-Sawdust explanation, even if it would be more accurately described as termite droppings. Just think about what will happen to all that fine, desiccated wood dust, when some Fyros hero lets his flaming retch axe or stavonus sword rest on the ground ? never mind the launchers, flame spells or kipesta and ocyx breaths.

Metallic minerals are required for life, from the iron in our blood to the calcium in our bones, all the way to the aluminium that is a constituent of clays that support plant life.

I can accept that there are no accessible metal sources, but denying they are present at all is less credible than a game with noble, wise elves and vicious goblins

[katriell]

Metallic minerals are required for life, from the iron in our blood to the calcium in our bones, all the way to the aluminium that is a constituent of clays that support plant life.

*repeats myself* Why do people assume all life in the universe would be the same in that way?

[bluefve]

From a medical standpoint, Katriell is right. Humans and basically all life forms here on Earth are carbon based, yes, a mineral, but there are other places out there. Other places that have other substances. Alternatives. Its a totally safe and reasonable theory -- if you don't suddenly base a comparison off of something else thats in a different catagory.

Did that make any sense at all? -_-;

[scarazi]

I never did like the Fyros-is-made-of-Sawdust explanation, even if it would be more accurately described as termite droppings. Just think about what will happen to all that fine, desiccated wood dust, when some Fyros hero lets his flaming retch axe or stavonus sword rest on the ground ? never mind the launchers, flame spells or kipesta and ocyx breaths.

that would explain flaming forrest and scortched corridor

[kibsword]

Atysian Wood appears to be far less flamable than Earth wood, its composed different and appears to be stronger too.