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new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:31 am
by myraven
i tried to healp a friend thru pr and could not heal cus we were not in the same guild that is stupid and very annoying even tho one that was there was same faction as me -.- (other was nuetral) anyone else dislike this or is it just me :p

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:49 am
by iphdrunk
myraven wrote:i tried to healp a friend thru pr and could not heal cus we were not in the same guild that is stupid and very annoying even tho one that was there was same faction as me -.- (other was nuetral) anyone else dislike this or is it just me :p


I don't like it either.... apparently, not even the members of your team can heal you, unless in your guild, since it's clearly a GvG zone. Personally, being is a solo (1-2) guild for several reasons that excludes a lot of players :o

Yet another reason to knock down smaller guilds.... let's reduce the number of guilds to the number of current q250 outposts, soon, FvF and GvG will be synonims.

"looking for guild, anyone"?

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:12 am
by thlau
I noticed this effect in the GvG regions too. Does someone had a chance to test it in the PvP regions too?

For the GvG region I have toadd, that the name of other team members show in green, which leaves the impression that they should be healable. Maybe these should appear in red if healing isn't possible.

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:57 pm
by blaah
iphdrunk wrote:Yet another reason to knock down smaller guilds.... let's reduce the number of guilds to the number of current q250 outposts, soon, FvF and GvG will be synonims.
hehe, so true :-)

on subject:
Guild vs Guild (Lands of Umbra / Nexus), Faction vs Faction (old lands, others got removed ?), PvP (Matis arena)

as strange as it sounds :-) GvG should behave just like it does (aparently) - can only heal own guild (if you still can kill your guildmate, then report it as a bug :-)

have not been in Matis arena lately, so dont know if you can heal others or not. Name says Player vs Player (for Nevrax it probably means just that), so file a bugreport is you can heal others :-)

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:22 pm
by kgrieve
This is annoying for treks.

I have recently done several treks passing through Tench of Trials and the guild only healing is an annoyance that doesn't seem to add anything to the game. Previously we could heal in-team and used to mix the teams to get through.

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:26 pm
by sprite
In some occassions I have been in nexus (*recently*) and been healed by people in another guild. Oddly I could not heal back :o

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:38 pm
by sidusar
blaah wrote:have not been in Matis arena lately, so dont know if you can heal others or not. Name says Player vs Player (for Nevrax it probably means just that), so file a bugreport is you can heal others :-)
Couldn't heal players who where both in the same guild and in the same team while in the arena.

Though you can heal anyone who's outside the arena.

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:40 pm
by marct
myraven wrote:i tried to healp a friend thru pr and could not heal cus we were not in the same guild that is stupid and very annoying even tho one that was there was same faction as me -.- (other was nuetral) anyone else dislike this or is it just me :p
Have had the problem with guildies also. missing: <PVP_Cannot_Assist_Enemy> Missing or Invalid

:(

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:42 pm
by marct
blaah wrote:hehe, so true :-)

on subject:
Guild vs Guild (Lands of Umbra / Nexus), Faction vs Faction (old lands, others got removed ?), PvP (Matis arena)

as strange as it sounds :-) GvG should behave just like it does (aparently) - can only heal own guild (if you still can kill your guildmate, then report it as a bug :-)

have not been in Matis arena lately, so dont know if you can heal others or not. Name says Player vs Player (for Nevrax it probably means just that), so file a bugreport is you can heal others :-)
It's the addition of the Global FvF with the PvP tags that has screwed the most of this up. Even if you are not and have not been flagged, the code seems to be arguing with itself and does not know how to function.

Noin.

Re: new PvP rules in pr -.-

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:56 pm
by blaah
marct wrote:It's the addition of the Global FvF with the PvP tags that has screwed the most of this up. Even if you are not and have not been flagged, the code seems to be arguing with itself and does not know how to function.
i agree that global FvF tag is messed up and has messed up other PvP functions (GvG / arena heal restrictions should be seen as bugfixes ;-)

current PvP areas (except event FvF ones) should be FFA PvP (no restrictions, maybe just some, so you dont nuke your team :-) and when grouped, bomb lands only on your team members)
heal anyone (give popup if you want to get rezed to prevent rez-kill loop griefing), kill anyone.

they have shoot themselves to foot with soo many PvP "areas" and now they cant maintain the code :-(