Page 1 of 1
Atys Shrugged
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:51 am
by danolt
"My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute" Ann Rynd
Productive achievement
.Reason
. Purpose
Happiness. That is what I seek.
Three choices have been found; Kami, Karavan and Neutral. In all three I see the potential to foster all of the listed attributes. In all three I see dangers. So how do I choose a side, more importantly how do I ask others to follow that choice?
In using the four listed criteria I have determined that neutral is the least likely to achieve my four goals. That leaves either Karavan or Kami. Either/or
one and not the other. A side must be picked.
This is where the Hominist perspective comes in. One can be a devout supporter of either faction and hold no ill will towards the other. Honor, Honesty, Mercy, Compassion which of these traits is owned be either side?
In competition we will be tested. The desire to take short cuts will be strong. It is our belief that every Homin has unique value, that every Homin can be a heroic being, these beliefs define us. This is what it means to be a Hominist. This is Aeden Artisans.
A side must still be picked. I have chosen Karavan.
We are AA, Others Follow.
Pero
Re: Atys Shrugged
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:17 pm
by swe999
Ayn Rand
One must decide whether the survival of Atys is in line with one's happiness. The clearest Kami/Karavan delineation is that the Karavan care only about resources and domination, while the Kami care about survival of sentient life and continued growth of Atys.
Re: Atys Shrugged
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:56 am
by gwythion
As far as I can see they are as bad as each other.
The Karavan want the world to be expoilted until it is a hollow shell and then for us to be moved on to another.
The Kami want us to live in a sterile balance with the world with no room for development or growth.
Re: Atys Shrugged
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:19 pm
by danolt
gwythion wrote:As far as I can see they are as bad as each other.
The reason for my choice has little to do with the merits or faults of either the Kami or the Karavan. My decision was based on speculation, rumor and convenience. The epiphany which stirred me to action has little to do with either side. The reason for my choice is simple, fear.
I have been to the old lands. I have seen the bloodlust. I have felt it. It is growing and it shall soon encompass all of our lands. This demon will not stop at the doors of those who support Ma Duc or Jena. It will feed off all the Homins it reaches, man, woman and child.
The Myopic will be obliterated by the two factions; neutral bastions will be destroyed as soon as they appear. Neither side will risk having potential enemy rallying points within their own borders. This will push the neutrals into existing on the front line. They will be hounded by war. Wherever they go, destruction will follow. The farmer and merchant will look upon the banner of neutrality with dread, for where that banner flies armies will clash.
Do you think a faction will be satisfied with 50% of the regions? 75%? 99%? Do you think a faction will listen to the concerns of those who do not support them? There are no good choices here. Maybe, overtime, Homins will be given more control of our fate. If that opportunity comes I hope an olive branch will be extended instead of the sword. I have made my choice now, in prepearation for that day.
Pero
Re: Atys Shrugged
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:21 pm
by amitst
gwythion wrote:
The Karavan want the world to be expoilted until it is a hollow shell and then for us to be moved on to another.
The Kami want us to live in a sterile balance with the world with no room for development or growth.
This is an outright lie born of propaganda. While it is true the karavan seek to use the world for its resources, they do not seek to destroy it. Similarly, the Kami allow us to use whatever resources the land provides as long as we do not strip it bare.
I believe Gwythion's post is tainted by karavan fear. The Karavan are in no rush to destroy Atys, yet they care not whether it turns into an empty shell or not. By saying this he assumes the position of objectivity before slandering the benevolent Kami.
Re: Atys Shrugged
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:05 pm
by sk8rss
danolt wrote:The reason for my choice has little to do with the merits or faults of either the Kami or the Karavan. My decision was based on speculation, rumor and convenience. The epiphany which stirred me to action has little to do with either side. The reason for my choice is simple, fear.
So you suffer from weakness of the will? Fear is exactly what holds many homins under the technological eye of the Karavan.
Re: Atys Shrugged
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:56 pm
by sk8rss
gwythion wrote:
The Kami want us to live in a sterile balance with the world with no room for development or growth.
However, them allowing for the construction of our sanctuaries, construction of drills in our outposts, and the prosperity of the Kami guilds begs to differ. Growth is totally acceptable as long as it does not destroy Atys in the process. A concept difficult for many of the self-minded Karavan, or self-righteous neutrals (not to say ALL are) to understand.