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I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:31 am
by cygnus
OK............... shoot me down now but I saw something tonight that well, just Edited - Foul language is not permitted on these public message boards, please respect the forum rules & Netiquette and I dont agree with.............

Logged in, grinding some jewels...motd pops up or general msg whatever you want to call it, cant even remember exact syntax but it included some persoanal reference to, I assume, Calabrien, from the content....(I'm sure someone can fill in the exact msg, I logged out)

Trivial really.......... maybe, but from my dealings with irc, ops, server ops etc, etc, NO..... it's an abuse of these priveledges. They are not there to greet your best buddy, wish happy birthday to mom blah blah..............

Just lately there has been a lot of discussion over the behaviour etc of players and GM's etc that has actually resulted in player bans. I don't need to mention specifics, those that read these forums will be well aware of the situation.

IMO stuff like this does not help at all and those that have the "power" should be more aware of their responsibilities and adhere to them as they expect us mere playeres to adhere to ours. You are not some greater being better than us, no more so than we are compared to you, but you do have a responsiblilty entrusted to you. Do not abuse this responsibility in ANY form, if we abuse our responsiblities as a player, the consequences have been proven to be severe.

End rant............flame on if you want but I just think this was wrong regardless of how trivial it may seem...................

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:42 am
by katriell
What, exactly, do you mean by "personal reference"? It's perfectly acceptable to mention a player's name, e.g., "Drakfot's world tour" or "wedding of Alibooma and Loulou", and I'm wondering if you misunderstood such a reference to be more personal in nature than it was.

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:47 am
by basicart
Was..
"Welcome to Atys! Enjoy your time on our dynamic planet! PS Caley rox0rs : P"
Was only spammed 4 times :D

Edit: I aint fussed as i ignore MOTD anyway only noticed this one cos was repeted in a row, So if theres a raid or such please spam it also so i notic that to :D

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:53 am
by sprite
cygnus wrote:but from my dealings with irc, ops, server ops etc, etc,
I mean you no offence, but why are you in the IRC channel anyway? You're welcome to stay, but if you only idle (klients is better for support and has more up-to-date information) and dislike the friendly nature between the CSR and players there, I would have imagined you would prefer not to *shrug*

Edit: I thought it was twice, but I could be wrong. Was fighting Scythe at the time ;)

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:00 am
by katriell
as i ignore MOTD anyway
That's cruel...imagine the frustration of people who broadcast system messages/MOTDs/announcements (in any situation, not just in Ryzom). They broadcast those messages because they're one of the best ways to get the word out to everyone. When people ignore them....it defeats the purpose and makes their job 100x harder. :(

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Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:05 am
by basicart
If they dont want them ignored they should use them less then :D

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:32 am
by b00ster1
motd pops up or general msg whatever you want to call it, cant even remember exact syntax but it included some persoanal reference to
"Welcome to Atys! Enjoy your time on our dynamic planet! PS Caley rox0rs : P"
Well... Some time ago, CSR refused to Sen. Guide and ignored few tickets to announce few not important things like about first player on shard reached lvl250 and etc... Refused with answer "...MOTD is part of complex engine [.....] for Invasions only, controling kitins behavior .... " and etc...
Now looks, MOTD is used to broadcast any message, and looks like CSR use it instead of PMs"...
Also repeating announcements via MOTD about event, each 30-60 sec, is a little annoying for players not interesed in current event.

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:42 am
by sprite
b00ster1 wrote:Well... Some time ago, CSR refused to Sen. Guide and ignored few tickets to announce few not important things like about first player on shard reached lvl250 and etc... Refused with answer "...MOTD is part of complex engine [.....] for Invasions only, controling kitins behavior .... " and etc...
Now looks, MOTD is used to broadcast any message, and looks like CSR use it instead of PMs"...
Also repeating announcements via MOTD about event, each 30-60 sec, is a little annoying for players not interesed in current event.
Commenting only on this post, not the thread topic: The MOTD (yellow text at the bottom of the screen you see when you log in) I agree, but broadcasts (white text which flashes up once when sent and is "logged" in the System Info) are designed for more frequent use especially events and so forth.

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:42 am
by cygnus
sprite wrote:I mean you no offence, but why are you in the IRC channel anyway? You're welcome to stay, but if you only idle (klients is better for support and has more up-to-date information) and dislike the friendly nature between the CSR and players there, I would have imagined you would prefer not to *shrug*

Edit: I thought it was twice, but I could be wrong. Was fighting Scythe at the time ;)

No offence taken initially.....

I am on irc 24/7 in various other channels as user, op and server op. It makes sense to add #Ryzom as another channel as mIRC is running anyway. I dont use it for support as such, I use it more as an information tool, eg I cant login, game hangs, I tab back to irc and within seconds I can see there is a problem at the server end or no-one else has a problem so the problem is my end. I used klients for a long long time and tbh got fed up with the endless spam of "is the server up" when the game hung or patches were being updated. (why I just had to justify my being in the channel I dont know....)

Your comment

"and dislike the friendly nature between the CSR and players there"

is grossly unfair and to that I do take offence. My post has nothing remotely to do with that and has not in any way levelled any criticism towards you or anyone else within the irc channel. In fact YOU are the only person to mention the Ryzom irc channel and my prescence within it. I can only assume that your post is a follow on to my comments within the irc channel prior to this post.

If you have a personal problem with this feel free to double click my nick in the irc window and take it there, private message me whatever. Please refrain from irrelevant comments that are unconnected with this thread and especially ones that as far as I can see from this post are just your own little digs at me.

Re: I probably shouldn't do this but..........

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:44 am
by sprite
cygnus wrote: If you have a personal problem with this feel free to double click my nick in the irc window and take it there, private message me whatever. Please refrain from irrelevant comments that are unconnected with this thread and especially ones that as far as I can see from this post are just your own little digs at me.
Wasn't a dig, explaining myself in a PM as requested ;)