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Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:12 pm
by ilthor
As a tryker, since the beggining i've felt we had a much tougher life than other races, since it was only after a good deal of time that someone made it to tryker cities, when all other races interchanged freely for some time. After a while, other factors put me to rest, as the good deal of water that provides safe hunts etc. But now, as Advanced Heavy Armorer i feel that after lvl 150 it aint easy to lvl harvesting and there for crafting.
Why? The areas available after 150 are Enchanted Isle, Bounty Beaches and Loria, all of them eavily populated by mostly agro mobs (for some reason it was hard to get to tryker

), which leaves with one of 2 choices: 1 - die > spawn at Loria and harvest near the lake (which is safe, but depressing) ; 2 - go to enchanted isle and harvest near the nasty mobs (which will most likely take you to loria for a bit of safe harvesting and dp erasing, but with the down factor that if you have almost full bag you're gonna get that dp and not clean it).
From what i've seen in end-game areas like Grove, its just too easy to harvest there compared to tryker land. Tps are available, its easy to walk there if one looses the Tp or goes there for the first time ( Enchanted isle has a supreme boss right at the entrance that creates a large area of massive carnivore agro), etc etc.
Not all is bad though, trykettes are the cutest chars ingame, and to top that the 1st lvl 250 harvester was a lakeland forager, which goes to show that all this might be just over reacting.
Anyway just wanted to know what you thought...
EDIT: added a pole, didnt quite know how to work with it

Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:19 pm
by g00st
Well Ghuiss thought the happy bouncing trykers deserved to build a town in one of the other areas. Seems like a good idea to this Zorai who has trouble swiming all the time.
But at least the lakes and fairhaven dont have the magnetic shield of zora.
Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:22 pm
by ilthor
g00st wrote:Well Ghuiss thought the happy bouncing trykers deserved to build a town in one of the other areas.
I'd like that, maybe fill one of the pr areas with some water, call it lakelands and let us trykers harvest supreme!

Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:47 pm
by borg9
Tryker has the impression of being hard.
Fyros has the impression of being easy.
Impression is the key word here!
I have harvest in EI for many months - even when it used to contain SILLY aggro levels!
I have recently started to harvest in BB - this place is quite 'fluffy' it seems.
Loria, well the stroll to the lake is a bit of a challange... I make it 3 times in 5 now (even in winter) from Avendale that is.
The thing about tryker is it forces you to work with others to get to places, but has its resources spead out enough not to have too much of an effect on things like KT. The mobs, yep they are aggro and quite close the the mats ... but the spots are very 'digable'.
Fyros on the other hand - easy to travel, (compared to Tryker) the harvest areas are aggro free (if you say one or two wandering zerx is HEAVY AGGRO you are lake digger

)
however as highlighted with FF thread and the KT issues around the towns, the problem is that they are so easy to get 'everyone gets them' so their a worse problem.
Tryker is only hard until you understand Tryker
Fryos is only easy untill you have to live and work there.
Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:06 pm
by roninpvp
edit: wrong post

Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:39 pm
by ilthor
borg9 wrote:
Tryker is only hard until you understand Tryker
That might be cause we are badly acostumed i know (Fount safe area is grind paradise, so you get soft), but as an example in EI (for a heavy armor crafter) the oil and sap are very easy and almost devoid of agro, but when you need resin or wood "the pig rolls its tail" (national saying

). Both the spots i know (one near kara tp, the other near some litle lakes) have or kirosta/kincher walking around / on it (depends on season) or kipesta/zerx/torbak walking around /on it. They are very "digable" yes, but to what strain? I stopped harvesting in EI, going back to fount for the last HQ plans cause its just too demanding on the nervous system lol.
Another thing is named activity and again will compare GoC to Loria. In GoC you have zatchel and vispa thats true, but with the amount of people lvling in the area most of the times they are dead. Loria on the other hand USED to have a very good and safe forage area, but is now populated with named kincher and najab, that nobody kills except for the bolobi named who only 1/2 of the time kills the kinchie.
BUT the KT is a good point neun, almost never down in lakeland except for fount. I know GoC is horrible in that...
Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:47 pm
by borg9
ilthor wrote:That might be cause we are badly acostumed i know (Fount safe area is grind paradise, so you get soft), but as an example in EI (for a heavy armor crafter) the oil and sap are very easy and almost devoid of agro, but when you need resin or wood "the pig rolls its tail" (national saying

). Both the spots i know (one near kara tp, the other near some litle lakes) have or kirosta/kincher walking around / on it (depends on season) or kipesta/zerx/torbak walking around /on it. They are very "digable" yes, but to what strain? I stopped harvesting in EI, going back to fount for the last HQ plans cause its just too demanding on the nervous system lol.
Every considered that if Sap and Oil (and fiber) are easy in EI ....
that there might be another region where Wood and Resin are err easy *wink*
So far I have moved approximately 8,000 resin from this spot
I am talking grinding stuff here .... I always think you should have to work hard for the good stuff.
(Ishy - start printing the rent books, we are going to get visitors

)
Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:27 pm
by ozric
What about the 5th option in the poll ? Races are fairly evenly balanced
Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:00 pm
by asaseth
Actualy, Matis is harder than Tryker for that aggro/travel thing.
As for the social thing, the matis and zorai were pritty equal, as far as being the whole 'enslave the masses' thing goes, but this haveing some of our leaders going mad and letting loose the 'uber kitin of DOOOOM', so to as point us out as being 'THE badguys'. Well, it seems a bit of poke with a pointy stick, don't you think? Not to mention the fact that we were the first to delair war, or effectively.
Noh
Zorai
Infinity
Re: Which race got the sharp end of the stick?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:07 pm
by rushin
voted for tyker, but tbh all races have + & - points. i kinda like it that there are actually differences in the various regions, with the lack of stat/ability based racial variations its good that you have to adopt a change in your approach to a region if u spend any amount of time there
