Ryzom

PLEASE NOTE: This is probably a massive waste of time for both you and I. It is a total day-dream. I know I'm going to be horribly embarrased as soon as I click 'Submit', but I just had this idea and wanted to put it down. If you are tight on time, or don't like listen to unlikely ideas, press 'back' on your browser now. Anyway...

Here is my day-dream about what Ryzom ring could be, or how it could be implemented:

Ryzom-Ring should be a skill tree. Seriously.

To start on this tree would be like any other, you can use skill points earned from another tree to obtain your basic creation start. When you recieve this plan, you are also given access to a relatively small chunk of randomly-formed land with some trees, animals (gentle and aggro), and raw materials present.

So, you'd have your basic Skill-Tree. Level 1-20 would be called 'Landscaping' or something basic. Then at level 21, it could branch to Plants, Animals, Structures, and Dirt (but with better names), and so on.

So, as you start out on this tree, you would be given an action called 'Create Tree 1' to create a small tree or bush (no, I'm not kidding!) which consumes focus, sap, etc, or some new as of yet untapped Homin power source and gives you exp if you successfully perform the action. A new skill trainer would be available specific to this skill-tree. Training with this NPC would allow you to learn new actions like:

Create Tree - creates a bush or tree or living plant (psykoplas, etc)
Depress Land - Creates a depression in the ground (size based on brick level)
Raise Land - Creates a mound or hill (again, sized based on brick level)
Flatten Land - Flattens an uneven area of land.
Create Structure - Build structures from fences to guild halls (Materials Required).
Create Animal - Creates an animal (animal and its aggro state set by sub-bricks in the action using the stanza system)
Create Homin - Creates an NPC.
Create Raw Material Source - self explanitory

Of course, the type, quality, complexity, strength, etc (or whichever of those applies) will increase as you gain experience, and aquire higher level versions of the bricks. As you progress, other more powerful actions will become available, like the ability to increase the size of your land.

So I think thats realistic, and has great potential for creativity. But I know many people are concerned about exploits. Like how could it be controlled so that people aren't putting supreme mats in the ground everywhere, or setting up high-level monsters in situations where they can be easily killed.

Totally valid concerns. So my daydream continues:

1) Each unit of land is given a preset amount of 'creation points'. Everytime a player creates something, it costs them 'creation points' in that section of land. Creating trees and topography would cost little, but raw material sources, animals and structures would cost much more. This keeps the player in check, and makes sure they have to to think about what goes on their land.

2) Everything you create should be based on the stanza system. If you want to create a specific material source, you must apply credits to it to penalize respawn rate, quality, class and even the exp it gives. You wouldn't get to specify that you want supreme or excellent mats, only that you want a raw material source. Weather you get Supreme or not, and how often, depends on the credits you use to create the source. This concept could also be used to limit people setting up boss monsters for easy leveling and mats, but still allow the player created areas to have everything.

In combination, these two systems would help keep things fair.

So, after months of creating crappy trees, animals, mat sources and structures, you'd be able to create really nice ones, and have a beautiful land to share with others. I honestly think that this would fit with the existing spirit of ryzom. slow, steady progression, rewarding the thoughtfull and hard working. If players really had to earn the abilities to create their
world, you would see less slapped-together exploit attempting zones.

Thats all I have to say, except that the new ryzom-ring website sparked this idea in my head with the following sentence:

Develop your maps in real time

I appologize if this is totally stupid.

emdawg wrote:I appologize if this is totally stupid.

This is the anthesis of stupid.... this may well be the most interesting, well thought out proposition for the game to date. ... trite and pointless... perhaps... but it'd be super cool.

Not sure if it was suggested... but this would be a KILLER tree if it was only tied to land immediately outside of outposts. So once you got an outpost... you could model it how you and your guildmates saw fit.

Just one homin's opinion... but this would be absolutely awesome... A to Z.

Damn,

Only one problem I see is there may be no one left to play this content in the months it would take to implement and level up. Most of us have few low lvl skills left to enjoy the tons of early newbie zones there would be. I'm not sure how many people are willing to start new chars to enjoy these zones. Many people have worked very hard to reach high lvl powers and they want a chance to make use of them.

Nope not totally stupid.

Making Ryzom-Ring (RR) a skill tree would certainly encourage people to build their own bits (people will level anything - look at ranged ). Although it might discourage serious modders.

An alternative idea to just having the RR a behind the scenes world building thing.

Implimentation would be interesting as would working it into the story line, but this *is* a game so...

Nice post.

PS "RR" abbreviation for Ryzom-Ring is now officially copyrighted by Turke Hands off my intelectual property!

hmmm, I noticed it called "R2" on the Ryzom Ring website, so I think that may be the official abbreviation?

Not that I mind RR (c) =D

kibsword wrote:hmmm, I noticed it called "R2" on the Ryzom Ring website, so I think that may be the official abbreviation?

Guess so and when they are holding the Ryzom Ring Developers Day, they get R2D2 =P

Absolutely, freaking BEAUTIFUL idea!
I loved SimCity too

Actually, when I was first reading about the game a year ago now - when I shanghaid hubby's beta account - I imagined we would doing something similar, though on a much smaller scale. Particularly the Matis, manipulators of Nature and all that. From family garden plots, parks & farms, to sculptures, private & public buildings.
You know, even I've been feeling a little worn out recently, as much with the negative posts as with any real grind in game. But this has given me a great jolt, like a giant chocolate bar (yummy!). If only more people would share their ideas like you have, we'd all be feeling more positive.
Even if the Ryzom Ring is nothing like this, I would ask that the devs take note of this excellent idea, and incorporate it as soon as possible, in modified form if necessary.

So emdawg, thank you very, very much for your hopeful, creative solution.

Wackyanne *bows deeply*

I'm going for the "Master Architect" title for sure

Great post =) I like the idea very much. Im totally sold on creating my own surroundings so this would be totally cool if they only could implement it lol

I agree with Brithlem here. Great idea for customizing outpost surroundings. For that cause, I do not see it necessary to create raw material sources.

However, this should not be necessary for general user created content as described by Nevrax. It would ruin the whole idea as creative minds are required to grind their terrain skills to boredom before able to effectively create new maps. (I am sorry if I missed something that would make this point invalid).