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if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:32 pm
by keoni
keoni wrote: But, hey - the next time someone on the forums compares me to a historical genocidal dictator, or something like that, maybe someone in the community can take issue with that kind of hateful hyperbole instead of cheering them on? Just a thought.
totnkopf wrote:Doubt that'll happen. People seem to save that label for me.
Morgaine - a little memory refresher seems to be in order:
From the thread:
http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13883
alyssah wrote:I once thought Adolf Hitler was the only one worse than my mother - in - law. Well done K.
To which you replied:totnkopf wrote:LoL... omg... that made my day
Also
while I do not and would not compare you to a follower of
***Edited by Forum Administration: Please refrain from making racial or political references on these message boards, especially to sensitive topics such as WWII.***
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:54 pm
by vinnyq
OK Keoni, time for me to have a nice little debate with you about this.
Your anger toward a NAME and/or SYMBOL is a bit irrational.
For instance,
You probably hate the Swastika symbol.
Would it surprise you to know that it was actually intended to mean balance and unity? And that Hitler nicked it to make it the symbol of his army?
What if Hitler had used a Circle, or a Triangle? Would you have banned the used of circle and triangle in everything?
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:20 pm
by keoni
vinnyq wrote:Your anger toward a NAME and/or SYMBOL is a bit irrational.
For instance,
You probably hate the Swastika symbol.
Would it surprise you to know that it was actually intended to mean balance and unity? And that Hitler nicked it to make it the symbol of his army?
Fyrxie baybuh, I'm familiar with the lineage of the "broken cross" - for example, I'm aware it's more often a mirror image of the Third Reich usage. I could also give you a good background on many other ancient symbols of magick and power, as I incorporate a number of them into my sculptures.
But I think you fundamentally misunderstood the point of my post. I'm not angry about Nazis, nor particularly emotional on this subject at all. I'm simply pointing out the incongruity of Morgaine's apparent "poor me" attitude about peeps pulling a Godwin on her, when she has previously egged on those who have done the same to others. Does that make her a bad person? Not necessarily. I'm just pointing to some quotes and some historical context - and it is what it is.
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:29 pm
by totnkopf
OH BOY! a post all about me!
I would also consider this to be a form of "dishing out" considering you made a whole new post, just to target me.
If you'll look at the posting history on this cr-for-attention thread, you'll notice that I wasn't the first to post. The Admin have since edited the post, but when I posted earlier I saw it in its entirety. I could have just as easily cheered him on, but I didn't.
I don't care if people label me based off of something logical, but when people jump from nothing to straight Nazi on me, it bugs me since I've not done anything to earn the label. However, I think you misunderstood my comment. It was not a "poor me", as you put it. I was instead simply a comment on recent trends in labeling. I don't care what people call me. I laugh when the call me a Nazi because it shows ignorance in their logic and a lack education.
Yes, my name has a bad rep from WWII. But, just like the swastika, it was around a long time before Hitler used it for his Reich (and this is also old news. There was already a thread in which someone went after me for the name. if you're curious as to why I chose it, go hunt down the thread).
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:34 pm
by roninpvp
and the point of this post would be? o.O
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:36 pm
by basicart
roninpvp wrote:and the point of this post would be? o.O
I was just wondering that my self
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:39 pm
by vinnyq
oh, my bad. I thought this was a reharsh of an old wound. Sorry!
Ignore me, carry on.
p.s. Morgaine is also the name of King Author's evil sister, which is an awesome name for a character.
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:40 pm
by larwood
Ok, ok... we all dont have the same opinion on things... thats what makes the world (and Atys) such an interesting place.
Think of it... if we all agreed, there would be no need for Vanillia and Chocolate Ice cream... there would only be ONE!! AHHHHH (*hides from the thought*)
Morgaine, I'm sorry that my post on the other thread seemed to relate you to Hitler and such, but this was not my intention... if you look at it again I was saying that I veiw KOS behavior similiar to Nazi behavior. I'm sorry if I offended you. I want you to know that I think you are a kind, and generous person. *wipes a tear*
/target Keoni
/high five
/target Morgaine
/pound it (aka "rock")
/target Thom
/shut up!
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:45 pm
by totnkopf
roninpvp wrote:and the point of this post would be? o.O
Keoni rehashing old garbage, essentially. She thought she'd get a cheap jab at me, but I'm pretty sure this could be considered a "flame' by the admin, specially since its only targeting me
Thom- Thanks hun =)
Fyrx- Thanks to you too =) I've always liked the name, althought its questionable as to if she was "evil" or not
Basic - Morg lubs joo
Re: if you cheer on those who dish it out...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:52 pm
by keoni
Sinful - the point of the post has been stated. As for why it's in a thread of it's own, I did that so as not to hijack my own thread (on jewelry and market dynamics) by what would have been a digression from the theme.