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Often ran through tribe Firebrands [Wasterlands], but cuz of "specific" mobs locations around - usually used 'SpeedUp'..
Not sure "why", but always had a strange feeling "something here wrong".

One day stoped in tribe and looked closer.

Kami "flag" above Karavan Kuild agent?
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Forgive to me mighty Ma-Duk, but the thirst of knowledge has pushed me on a sin and i picked one mission from our enemies, The Kuild Agent.
And one from tribes welcomer

You lost fame with allies, you gain fame with allies (from different missions Agents and Welcomers) ?
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Looked once again into Lore, some Ryzoms resources. Any info on this tribe, its allies, empty "fame table"..

This is just one more bug/translation bug?
After changed lore last time, they cut out something/not all changed in game?
I something missed?

Is it just a trick of the image, or is there also a big white Kami guy in the background near the 'building' under the Kami indicator in the second image?

Off to the right, Image2, slightly behind the stable looking structure.



If I saw that in person, I'd be pretty confused too.

Interesting, should go have a look. Don't think I have taken a mission from them yet, better check the archive.

Always thought The Kuild was kami allies, but seems they are with both.

The white thing looks more like a mektoub.

magick1 wrote:
Always thought The Kuild was kami allies, but seems they are with both.
The white thing looks more like a mektoub.

The kuild tribe itself shows Karavan ship over it. I have done a Kuild Mission and as a Matis you start wit 50 fame with the kuild so I'm pretty sure they are Karavan aligned.

The Kuild - "elite" Karavan tribe... (there are rumors, Karavan save PR goods for them)
The Kuild is in Matis and Trykers "friends list" (but mission dont add fame with any race)

No kami in tribe...Almost empty tribe, only Kami "wood statue" , Kami flag ... and Karavan Agent.
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From http://www.ryzom.com/?page=lore_atys_tribes

The members of the Kuild are homin agents of every race who work for the Karavan. The tribe has sworn allegiance to the disciples of Jena in exchange for their protection and sources of wealth. The Kuild collects materials which they trade for themselves and for the Karavan.

So is the fame thing evidence of a more sinister plot? Maybe. More than likely it's a bug though

I have tried to get a good feel for all the tribes in Atys and have found several examples similar to what you express here. Don't be fooled by whichever flag flies above the tribe, it can hurt

Firebrands - Tribes, Locations and effect on fame.

Many of these problems are a result of their civilization fame (even if they follow a strictly Karavan or Kami calling)...

I have also found that some areas (Typically 200+ top level zones I assume they think can be done last because so few of us actually traverse them frequently) do not seem to be finished. Wastelands is probably the biggest one, since I go there so often at least it's most apparent to me. All the NPC's are in place, but they are not of the proper level. As we all know even NPC tribes have levels... The WL NPC's are all "Guard" and get handled by the mobs around their camps. I believe 200+ tribes should be "Master Guard" type and should not have the whole camp destroyed by one mob.

Right near the Kami spawn in Sunken City are the "Cockroaches"... these guys are so weak that mobs even lay down to sleep without attacking back, I assume because the guards are too low level to hit. All 3 tribes (Cockroaches, Firebrands and Keepers) camps have mobs virtually in them constantly and dead guards... The Keepers camp is in the middle of several patrols routes... Other than the civilization fame issue, I think these tribes are just not finished yet...

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Alot of chaos was caused by Nevrax emergency measures:

i.e. kitin patrols designed to keep Doubletap out of PR

magick1 wrote: Always thought The Kuild was kami allies, but seems they are with both.

nope karavan and always been only karavan