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Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:12 pm
by alyssah
Just about to start harvesting q180 desert & q140 forest mats, I realise the impending problem that Homins in a small guild have in digging quality mats.
In Matis, no North Border fort in KoD and in Thesos & Dyron the same. And these are mainly only choice mats.
After discussing it with a few fellow Homins in a similar predicament I have decided to use the Forum to help resolve this.
How are we to get the protection we need to go into Flaming Forest, Prime Roots and the other dangerous places where excellent or better mats can be found (up to q250) without being torn apart? Please consider & comment on the following suggestions:

1) We form a temporary guild with the sole intention of diggers grouping together to chase the better mats, allowing some to take turns as protectors & diggers. This does not exclude tanks, nukers or healers joining who could hunt where we are prospecting and also acting as guards. This is where the mats will come from to make the high level weps, armour etc that they require.

OR

2) We form a dedicated guild for foragers, which will have the same aims & objectives as any other guilds but will concentrate 3, 4 or 5 days a week on collecting mats with the support of the other members. Again it does not exclude tanks who would be a welcome addition as long as digging was seen as the main aim.

That's my initial suggestions to get the ball rolling but your comments are welcome.
I am quite happy for you to 'tell' me ingame if you do not want to post here. However, this is not meant to draw members away from other guilds. Everyone takes a responsibility for their mats and if they want to pass them back to their own guild that is for them to decide.
Over to you.

Alyssah.

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:23 pm
by atrax
I'm all for making a permanent guild just of foragers.

Not for the sake of protection, i don't die very much i Flaming Forest, but i think a guild known to be able to dig anywhere would be great for players to go to in order to get mats.

Most diggers are crafters, and a 2nd benefit would be that alot of crafting can be acomplished.

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:04 am
by magick1
Why not? Make a guild and try to make it work. :)

Other ways of getting to a source spot, talk with an experienced sneaker or get a team together.
The Samsara are more than happy to help, for a few dappers or more.

Heck, if you pull off the harvester guild, I will go back to considering a healer guild only, called First/Second Aid or somesuch. :p

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:05 am
by alyssah
Thanks Magick 1 for making the point. The Samsara are large enough to be self sufficient.
With the Kami spots being unwelcoming now (people are being killed by the Kami for over harvesting) there is a need to go further afield.
Yes Atrax flaming forest has some good mats but it is easy to get over run by mobs if your not looking over your shoulder all the time. How much more efficient if there was a regular team to provide support.
I suppose paying a guild like the Samsara is a viable option but it would still need a group of harvesters to afford the fees. Sort of self defeating.
I have four interested diggers who like the idea but that is nowhere near enough to achieve the purpose.
I'll wait & see if the interest grows before making any decisions. Thanks for your response guys.

Alyssah

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:31 am
by grimjim
We're not that big you know!

And yes, we'd be happy to help, for a cut of the mats even.

Our own diggers might be up for teaming up and I don't mind standing guard so long as there's some conversation.

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:08 am
by dakhound
after consideration I think its not really an issue


FF in certain seasons (autumn especially) is pretty deviod of aggro and easy to dig.
PR in the right places (trial and error) its easy to dig but if you want the good stuff you gotta work for it

There is a guild for harvesters already though ----- CO (in'jk)

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:07 am
by syneti
Ye Ribbiton is self Sufficient with high lvl healers nukers and crafter's harvesters

Leader of Ye Ribbiton
Advanced Weapon Crafter of Atys
Toad Bounce's Back *Ribbit*

"Run Kitin's are invading, every Homin for them selves"

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:46 pm
by alyssah
There is a guild for harvesters already though ----- CO (in'jk)[/QUOTE]

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:04 pm
by alyssah
alyssah wrote:There is a guild for harvesters already though ----- CO (in'jk)
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Jackoba - I hate to say this but I am the Matis branch of CO. I wanted access to the Guild forum to discuss this & other issues but this was opposed by CO. Makes it difficult to organise events don't you think?

The purpose of this guild though was to be purely for the benefit of the foragers and thus the crafters that operate in situations where their party would be too small to defend against even medium agro. I was with Drafly behind the KoD North border fort trying to dig for normal choice mats (but only as high as q150) and we were killed 3 or 4 times in less than an hour. If we were digging it took too long to change to attack mode & of course we don't wear armour. Eventually I stood guard while Dra foraged. Dra has a whopping 1.5 mill DP and it keeps her from coming on regularly. If we had the backing of others in similar circumstances how much safer & more productive it would be. Not just one day a week but regularly. We would also be able to explore for better mat sources & not have Kami ill will on our heads.
Alyssah

Re: Do we need a Guild for harvesters??

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:10 pm
by archerke
i think all foragers could use a guard but it aint necessairy to gather them In one guild. Peeps are willing to stand guard for payment (the samsara) Though fe for me it is impossible to get exellent oath alone so yes if u can organise it to a bigger level