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What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:54 am
by micrix
How many of you do missions ?
Do you make them all or just those you know by others, that they give you a useful stanza ?

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:59 am
by sprite
micrix wrote:How many of you do missions ?
Do you make them all or just those you know by others, that they give you a useful stanza ?
No missions give stanza rewards, but some rites do.
Missions give fame or "money and fame" if you complete them; you need fame to be able to do harder missions, and your guild will need fame when outposts come out.

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:07 am
by micrix
sprite wrote:No missions give stanza rewards, but some rites do.
Missions give fame or "money and fame" if you complete them; you need fame to be able to do harder missions, and your guild will need fame when outposts come out.
I mean both of them. rite mission and "fame" missions. Do you do them ? Is this all about fame and stanza ? Are the amberqubes only backgroundstorys or will they lead to some real hidden knowledge ?

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:30 am
by borg9
micrix wrote:I mean both of them. rite mission and "fame" missions. Do you do them ? Is this all about fame and stanza ? Are the amberqubes only backgroundstorys or will they lead to some real hidden knowledge ?

Rites missions give both Knowledge & sometimes a reward (+50 focus or new stanza)

Tasks (normal missions) give fame and/or money, this may if you find key ones put you on a path to get a Rites mission.

Factors:

Skill: if you don't have the skill you can't get the task, you can't do a dig ql100 mission mat task if you are sub lvl 85. Fight mission are the same, with a team you maybe able to kill lvl 100 mobs but if you not lvl 100 you can't get the mission.

Fame: if the task giver doesn't know of you greatness, they are not inclinded to give you a mission.

We can now see all the missions that can be done (grey ones). If they are grey you don't meet the task givers requirements. This was a great step forward as it was beleived that the higher level content wasn't there or bugged. We now know we just didn't qualify.

Task where the giver is grateful or very greatful give high fame only.
Task where the giver offers money means less fame, but some money.

Tasks give both +/- fame. You can establish how the people/tribes inter-relate by see the effect on fame.

Its possible to have positive fame with all races. Its not possible AFAIK to have positive fame with both karavan and kami. (still seaching for a mission that gives fame for just one false prophet). I think it is possible to have negative fame with both.

Fame return reduces are you get more famous and powerful. Doing a mission at a lvl 50 town will eventually stop giving you fame.

Some of the inter-relations are strange, We don't know if they are wrong, but its another example of a simple system complicated by choices.

4 races
~51 tribes
2 religions (4 players Kami and White Karavan vs Karavan and Black Kami)

Each of this releates in a positive, negative or netrual position.

eg Beach combers are anti-Karavan, pro-kami, pro-Zoria and pro-Beach combers.

Mapping these relationships is a challange. One that should you decide to do has enough content in it to keep you 100% occupied without doing anything else.

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:47 am
by linkzero
I refuse to do any kind of mission until they un-nerf my spells :D
I've tried everything else - maybe not doing any missions will get
their attention !!

Besides I find it rather lame that one can do the same mission over and over
again.

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:07 am
by borg9
linkzero wrote:I refuse to do any kind of mission until they un-nerf my spells :D
I've tried everything else - maybe not doing any missions will get
their attention !!

Besides I find it rather lame that one can do the same mission over and over
again.
How are you spells nerf out of interest?

Magic seems when compare with other skills the most powerfully skill set in the game .... what other skill set allows you to solo Named mobs of your own level?

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:10 am
by dakhound
borg9 wrote:How are you spells nerf out of interest?

Magic seems when compare with other skills the most powerfully skill set in the game .... what other skill set allows you to solo Named mobs of your own level?
I think he's referring to affliction spells (see other topic Defensive magic for details)

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:11 am
by linkzero
borg9 wrote:How are you spells nerf out of interest?

Magic seems when compare with other skills the most powerfully skill set in the game .... what other skill set allows you to solo Named mobs of your own level?
hehe my point exactly :D People don't even know affliction spells excist !!

We're not all elementalists :)

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:28 am
by borg9
linkzero wrote:hehe my point exactly :D People don't even know affliction spells excist !!

We're not all elementalists :)

Would this be XP related to Aff spells that was fixed in the last patch that you wouldn't have noticed cas your playing WoW?

Re: What importance do have missions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:34 am
by hans1976
This is reminding me of the D2 patch where the Whirlwind Barberian was adjusted.
(little bit of background: BigfighterDooD, longrange poleaxe, spin him around really fast, let him to max damage on every hit through a group of mobs. After sometimes, the most powerfull players looked like ballerina's in Heavy armor with wings. It was tuned done to do a more reasonable amount of damage vs. time. Upset some people a bit ;-)

This is one of the first games where I play for fun, not for lvl's. If it gets harder for whatever reason, so be it, it will add to the fun or will use other skills.

Grtz