Ryzom

Just to get a poll here:

Currently there seems to be no supreme mats of higher quality then 200 available in any lands other then PR. Nexus is there only up to Q200 and forest harvesting only.

Personally, I fail to see why I'd need to get my Forest harvesting up when in current setup, the optimal harvesting is roots once you get above lvl 200 and need high quality weapons. What exactly is the point of other then PR harvesting skills other then craft grind?

ya should of added to the list- Nexus mats should be raised to Q250 for only Matis cos Dev's love us most

Though i would love a Fyros supreme Zone or land, i did have hopes that would be what the blocked off porthole would be for - sigh

Tyker and Zorai aint fussed i dont dig there hehe

There are a few problems with your changes. First is that the Nexus is forest area so only forest mats can be pulled there. Having jungle, lake, or desert mats just won't make sense.

The second is changing the level. If you raise the mat level to 250, you have to raise everything to 250. This includes mobs and tribes. This has a sort of domino effect because one of the tribes there is The Company of the Eternal Tree. They are a level 150 tribe with camps in at least the Witherings and the Nexus. So if you raise them to 250 you have to change them in Witherings also which sets other issues into motion.

I'm for leaving it the way it is, but I certainly know what mats are!

I would like to see a Nexus zone for every race. It makes sense for only PR to be q250 though.

Create a desert and a jungle around a lake in nexus - problem solved.
The problem that i'm having with leaving the way it is:


I have forest harvesting
For my guild I want the best stuff
I cant get best stuff with forest harvesting because there are no forest supremes above Q200. The question then - why did i start raising forest foraging instead of duing pure PR? It just does not make sense.

raynes wrote:There are a few problems with your changes. First is that the Nexus is forest area so only forest mats can be pulled there. Having jungle, lake, or desert mats just won't make sense.

The second is changing the level. If you raise the mat level to 250, you have to raise everything to 250. This includes mobs and tribes. This has a sort of domino effect because one of the tribes there is The Company of the Eternal Tree. They are a level 150 tribe with camps in at least the Witherings and the Nexus. So if you raise them to 250 you have to change them in Witherings also which sets other issues into motion.

I'm for leaving it the way it is, but I certainly know what mats are!

Goes well to my previous message - why bother getting race specifc harvesting when the one you truly need is PR - defeats the purpose here.

madnak wrote:I would like to see a Nexus zone for every race. It makes sense for only PR to be q250 though.

lariva wrote:Create a desert and a jungle around a lake in nexus - problem solved.
The problem that i'm having with leaving the way it is:


I have forest harvesting
For my guild I want the best stuff
I cant get best stuff with forest harvesting because there are no forest supremes above Q200. The question then - why did i start raising forest foraging instead of duing pure PR? It just does not make sense.

I understand what you mean. But you can't introduce a lake and different ecosystems all of a sudden to the Nexus. For one the climate of the Forest is completely different than that of the desert, lake, and jungle.

My suggestion on the subject? Introduce 3 new area that are the equivilent of the Nexus but represent each of the lands.

I'm not voting though I totally agree with the OP's idea that harvesting is still not well balanced.

PR is indeed much nicer than jungle, and I don't really think it should be. They have added PvP down there when there is a lack of population and the Patrols were removed.

If supreme exists anywhere in the jungle, I'm the unluckiest person in the world. I've run numeroous generalized/specific long distance tracking and found nothing. For that reason alone I see myself stopping jungle harvesting to merely guard my harvesters in the PR...I think it's fun to do that of course. I also think it can get boring if that's the only way I'm going to be pulling supreme high Q - and our pr harvesters don't always need guards.

Where I disagree is the implementation. First, I don't agree that every race should be the same. They can make things even through a non-generic format though it may not seem that way due to it's variation.

I have several ideas for the implementation but limited knowledge of sources in fyros, assorted pr, matis and tryker. My ideas would require input for modification.

Suffice to say it indeed attempts to balance the harvesting class. Unfortunately with each thing I make easier on people I try to think of making one thing harder. I fear for this reason that it may be ill recieved.

Post the ideas - if they are not posted, they wont be recieved at all
ill is better then nothing.

Perhaps we can get Cerest involved into this conversation as the entire subject of PR, mats, harvesting and PVP has been getting a lot of attention lately

josephm wrote:I'm not voting though I totally agree with the OP's idea that harvesting is still not well balanced.

PR is indeed much nicer than jungle, and I don't really think it should be. They have added PvP down there when there is a lack of population and the Patrols were removed.

If supreme exists anywhere in the jungle, I'm the unluckiest person in the world. I've run numeroous generalized/specific long distance tracking and found nothing. For that reason alone I see myself stopping jungle harvesting to merely guard my harvesters in the PR...I think it's fun to do that of course. I also think it can get boring if that's the only way I'm going to be pulling supreme high Q - and our pr harvesters don't always need guards.

Where I disagree is the implementation. First, I don't agree that every race should be the same. They can make things even through a non-generic format though it may not seem that way due to it's variation.

I have several ideas for the implementation but limited knowledge of sources in fyros, assorted pr, matis and tryker. My ideas would require input for modification.

Suffice to say it indeed attempts to balance the harvesting class. Unfortunately with each thing I make easier on people I try to think of making one thing harder. I fear for this reason that it may be ill recieved.

i don’t think any changes needed to the lands even nexus is useless...
right now there is no reason to raise foraging above 240 unless u like bigger DP ...
also terrain specific foraging is completely useless ... just dig PR and get all u need.. with the lock of population in the game u don’t have a problem with being PKed ....

i feel bad for other races not having any sup mats ... matis have q200 i know its not 250 but its there.. other races don’t even have that...

my vote is for the new skill at lvl 250 ... the way i saw it was very simple
make it an expansive skill like 200 sp at lvl 250 that will allow you to find Q250 supreme mats in the Q250 area... the skill should be terrain specific so if you are forest forager u can only find sups in GoC... if u are lake forager u find it in LS ... etc...

to eliminate the potential abuse on the part of others digging supreme sources just make it so only lvl 250 forager can dig them... this way no one can dig those spots unless u can find them yourself

also as it stands right now .... if u get to lvl 250 in one foraging tree.. and lets day 100 in all others u will buy out the foraging vendor completly .. i mean all of it .. so what are we going to do with the rest of the points?