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amitst
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Re: Stop complaining....

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trosky wrote:No matter how bad something his, it never justify complaining without being constructive. Anyway I wont defend my point anymore.... its just simple fact, anybody working at customer support would agree with me. No need to yell to be listen.

being polite doesnt help people listen to you, when they need you to survive

if your child started cursing at you you would listen pretty intently, you wouldnt start ignoring them, nevrax needs us, they shoudl be taking personal offense to curses slung at them, but like i said, nevrax outsources their customer service, so it doesnt matter if you yell at them anyways
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trosky
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Re: Stop complaining....

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Final word : Its a shame people where saying Ryzom was the best community in mmorpg. Its not anymore, you have gone like any other game. Not all of you but all who whinne all the times or cant state a complain in a proper way.
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Re: Stop complaining....

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trosky wrote:Blahblahblahblahblahblah
Death penalty is a easy to clear as always... can get 17000 penalty cleared in 5 mins before and after patch.

Point is :

People are whinning and flaming when they dont need to, there was problem with patch 1, they are fixing it (and really fast, awsome job, some other cie could have been a LOT slower).
There was no need to act like kids.

You only get 17000 death penalty, i got over 120000 per death, and i got half or less xp points on anything i tried, and died trying so i have close to 300000 points on death penalty. If you ask me there is a lot to complan about. Probably for a newb like you there's isnt much diference.

Just how many think the same way you do? In my point of view the game was ruined for all of us who played it since beta, all this huge changes were anything but good.
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trosky
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Re: Stop complaining....

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I played since beta... Im just not a hardcore player, i got a real life.
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Re: Stop complaining....

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It takes at least two people to start an argument Trosky, this whole line of mud slinging would not have started if you had not put in your comment and made other people's comments and problems sound trivial. 17,000 DP is really nothing, I can clear that in less than a minute. But when you die and get 50-100k dp a death it can really add up. I racked up 700k dp last night just from trying to go to a spot to harvest. I spent 5 hours straight in front of the computer clicking on harvest actions just to work off this DP.

Its not people who were rude that ruined the game. Its the people who keep saying everything is fine and making other people who truely had concerns and posted sound trivial. Your post and people like you made complaints from the ATS testers sound like smoke.

Patch 1 was the result.

We really have you guys to blame.
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trosky
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Re: Stop complaining....

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I did know, from my first post, that people where going to react strongly to what im saying. I did mentionned that in my first post.

I did acknowledge their were problems, I never said everything was fine.

So yeah Patch 1 is all my fault....

BTW I still think the main problems is that the game was too easy from the beginning. Nevrax had planned content for a long time (eventually adding planet, etc...). So its not normal that people were able to get to lvl 200. Nevrax are to blame for that... but its too late now, those player are where they are.
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my only complaint is that almost every post has tons of spelling errors. it's hard to read :/
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Re: Stop complaining....

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complaint.


what a funky looking word o.O
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trosky
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Re: Stop complaining....

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euwest wrote:my only complaint is that almost every post has tons of spelling errors. it's hard to read :/
Sorry if you were talking about some of my posts. My first language is french. Im doing the best I can.


BTW I just read the French board, its alot cleaner then here, people complained but nothing like "you should fire the person responsible of patch 1" or other really poor comment. Also theirs a few comment that support what im saying.
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Re: Stop complaining....

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Lets analyze your first post :
trosky wrote:What ever they do they will always be complaining... thats a sad fact.

But heres my opinion (i can hear the flaming coming) :

The game was really easy to lvl before... the game was supposed to last a lot longuer then how things were going... some harcore players made their way up to lvl 150 (and even higher) out of 250... in a month.

So they made the game a bit harder, to make the game last.
So far so good, up til this point you are correct.
trosky wrote: Now people are complaining because its alot harder (but totally do-able) to solo, and it was WAY to easy before.

Harvesting is the only things that is really bad in patch 1, and they will make another patch to fix harvesting. All the other skills work great, my char is actually stronger after patch 1.
You haven't faced all the situations other people have faced so how can you make that kind of a statement?
trosky wrote: Another thing that is anoying people is what they did to the mobs. They raised their damage and lowered their hp. I can now kill growling cloppers in 3 hit (nearly 2), before patch 1 it was taking around 10 hit, the clopper was hiting for 50-100 and is now hitting for 150-200. So you have to be more cautious but kills are faster and exp is nearly the same...
Growling clopper is what? level 13... why do you naturally assume that because you didn't have that much problems with a level 13 mob that everyone else were not experiencing the same problems? More cautious? When a clopper hits you for 650 hps and you have only 1790 hps that means you are dead in 3 hits. They didn't scale up the dmg for higher levels and its not 3 hits to kill that clopper, more like 10.
trosky wrote: I soloed after patch 1, its definitly funner then before, hitting mobs without even looking at your screen is boring and a lot to easy.

I died more then before patch 1, whats so bad about dying, the exp penalty isnt hard to clear at all.

Anyway, im still able to solo.
Again, you made several assumptions, you assumed that since YOU had no problem soloing that other people wouldn't. You can just jump into the water when things go wrong. There is no option for that in all the other lands. When you get agroed by gingos and ragus from a long way a way, there is NO where to run. Those 200 hits will now add up.. Imagine being hit by 3 dogs all doing 200 dmg hits at the same time. I doubt you even have that much hps to survive even 2 hits from each dog.

You also assumed that people would be running around in full armor and weapons. Those that harvest are usually naked. With the new patch that means they get hit even harder. The time it takes for you to put your weapon in your hand is enough time for the agros to kill you. With no place to run. Is there any other options?

Can you see now why I said you made other's comments sound trivial?
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