a very possible future for the english server

[dakhound]

well if it was me, id do exactly like i did when i was leading an rp faction in another game, i only sent what was needed to make it a fair fight. now in terms of outpost battles i translate that too attacking ops so the following happens

kami and kara have even numbers of
250
200
100
50

where those arent even, you attack to take whats needed. when you have surplus you can hold contests , etc for that op. or trade it to balance the numbers. the great thing about this system is it guarantees constant conflict, as there will always be a few who will want to not follow the system.

the big question is can people overcome their greed?

as much as I repect you for putting forward this mate I cant say it would fit in with how I see ryzom. To be honest it sounds like a game without any concequence and totally devoid of risk/reward. Thats just my opinon tho ofc


the misconception you work under that we are greedy is wrong too, the KA doesnt say "lets all go take that OP because we need more cats", we do however say lets all go take that OP because xxx faction have been declaring on us for weeks and we want to hit back.

[viper579]

the misconception you work under that we are greedy is wrong too, the KA doesnt say "lets all go take that OP because we need more cats", we do however say lets all go take that OP because xxx faction have been declaring on us for weeks and we want to hit back.

how many q250 ops do you need? you've got 7 of 8.
if there are 300 kara getting q250 cats thats 10 q250 cats a month each. i dont even get 10 q100 cats a month. and one thing i will say, if it was me id give away cats to my in-game enemy in the range they lack.

guys chill out....there are much worse things happening we should be concerned about...this thread was uncalled for....

id be curious as to what, cats and by extension outposts affect almost everything. what happens when you beat the end game content in an mmorpg?

[meloner]

id be curious as to what, cats and by extension outposts affect almost everything. what happens when you beat the end game content in an mmorpg?

For crying out loud there is more to this game than cats ! In our current situation (lack of new content) you should stop using them completely ! you'll only get bored faster and leave within a few months ! I wouldnt give a crap if a faction had all OPs ! This game is NOT about the kami and the karavan, it is NOT about cats. You only think so because you made it so. You made the OPs a factional conflict. If you're so afraid about this particular consequence, the only solution is to make friends with peeps on the other side of the fence, make agreements among guilds, exchange cats for mats. There are plenty of mature guilds who i am sure will not take faction conflict so seriously they'd refuse to have any dealings with the "enemy". Trust me, I'm sure it's possible. You just have to swallow your pride and make the first step.

[dakhound]

how many q250 ops do you need? you've got 7 of 8

need? dunno
own? check guild op thread

now take this as an example, since you cant understand.

kamiXXX guild own an op, now hypothetically XXX then do loads of attacks on us, we then say "how can we fight back" and notice they own a sparkly OP, we then attack and win.....we might not need the OP but its the only game mechanic way we can fight back

[viper579]

For crying out loud there is more to this game than cats ! In our current situation (lack of new content) you should stop using them completely ! you'll only get bored faster and leave within a few months ! I wouldnt give a crap if a faction had all OPs ! This game is NOT about the kami and the karavan, it is NOT about cats. You only think so because you made it so. You made the OPs a factional conflict. If you're so afraid about this particular consequence, the only solution is to make friends with peeps on the other side of the fence, make agreements among guilds, exchange cats for mats. There are plenty of mature guilds who i am sure will not take faction conflict so seriously they'd refuse to have any dealings with the "enemy". Trust me, I'm sure it's possible. You just have to swallow your pride and make the first step.

Edit: outside of the fact im now grinding my way to 250 as fast as possible to be in op battles i dont really care for cats. though i am finding having an alt to heal you does make up for lack of them.

cause when i joined 2 months ago i rallied everyone to become part of a faction and fight each other? i didnt make cats the focus of the game, im also not out there saying 'join my guild and we'll give you cats' (which some guilds do) . cats and outpost were already the focus. people dont say 'we want an outpost' . they say we want a q200, q250 etc outpost. because those are the cats that are useful to them.

as for the trading idea i remember someone telling me about when you had to trade 100 boss mats for a stack of cats, if its reasonable i could see it. but as one player said "why would you help the enemy?" . i doubt it will be reasonable.

i do agree that agreements between guilds need to happen, not just players making friends with people on the other side. attitude follows leadership and if the guild leaders set the example, then the attitude of players will follow.

[twina]

Once again Viper I see you swamp the forum with yet another negative post - but not just a post - a whole thread - just waiting for the flames to start and the endless argueing.

If this is not your intention - then what is it? To save the community? The only thing you are doing is adding fuel to the fire and showing potential new players that there are faction problems and many disagreements between people.

You are always stating how bad one side is, how bad another person is etc etc etc. But you do not put anything constructive down. You just jump on the band-wagon and wade right in there picking fights with anyone that is not Kami alligned.

You say cats are not important - and go on to say that you would give them to everyone if you had them. I dont believe them important and can get them when I want - I just dont like to use them too much. You on the other hand cant stop talking about them - so they must be important to you. As for giving them away to your enemies i doubt you would - because I can make a presumption judging by all your flame posts that you are not a person with a balanced capacity to do away with your own personal bitterness and be free willed and caring - if you were yuo would stop stupid threads and negative posts so many times during the same day.

If you have a problem take anti-depressants - but lay off the forums with this kind of bull.

Get out of your box and try to realise that there are TWO main factions that are at war day on and day off. This is something that has been designed - people choose their sides.If you could just look at it unbiasedly you would see that many good things are done on each side and also not so good things done by each side. Yes Karavan appear stronger - but Brave herself has declared war - that takes two factions not ONE. What happens if Kami get all OP´s? That afterall is now your objectives. Me myself - I will just enjoy the OP battles and if one is taken from my guild - or of an ally - then i will do my best to get it back - but I will have fun doing it.

You always slander somebody or the community as a whole - I ask one question - are you even capable of teaming with the *enemy* - if not then you are not adding anything to the community - by action or by word. I myself have attacked and defended Kami OP´s - but you know the difference between you and I? I team with my people afterwards and have fun hunting with them - that includes people from nexus, team Spirit and many others. I may or may not believe in Braves actions - but it did not stop me from inviting her and her husband into a lpod team i started up last week - and we had fun. You see thats what the community is about - having fun. Warring on OP´s is ONE PART of the game only. If you chilled out and stopped being such a bigot and so bitter with things then maybe you would have more fun - and maybe that would allow others to have fun also.

Please stop posting stupid argumentative posts throughout the day everyday - we would all benefit more. unless of course your only onbjective is to stir up trouble non-stop?

[dakhound]

viperblood you speak of agreements etc but you hardly take a tone that makes us want to work with you, any kara is called greedy, any idea shot down etc

you wonder why ppl dont engage

(yes I'm no angel)

[viper579]

You are always stating how bad one side is, how bad another person is etc etc etc. But you do not put anything constructive down. You just jump on the band-wagon and wade right in there picking fights with anyone that is not Kami alligned.

if you notice i said to 'anyone who wants to own all the ops'. not kami or kara. if the kami where trying to own all the ops id be against that and would swap sides.

You say cats are not important - and go on to say that you would give them to everyone if you had them. I dont believe them important and can get them when I want - I just dont like to use them too much. You on the other hand cant stop talking about them - so they must be important to you. As for giving them away to your enemies i doubt you would - because I can make a presumption judging by all your flame posts that you are not a person with a balanced capacity to do away with your own personal bitterness and be free willed and caring - if you were yuo would stop stupid threads and negative posts so many times during the same day.

there are problems you can ignore them or fix them. reality is unless your uber high level guy, you cant do jack at outpost battles or in general. so for quite a while all you can do when it comes to changing things is talking. as someone told me when i said new players cant do much at outposts. "politics is a big part of outposts" .

What happens if Kami get all OP´s? That afterall is now your objectives.

wrong, i already put in this thread and on the kami forums that one has to make sure the game is fun for both sides. and if the kami did make it there objective to take all the ops, id oppose the idea and if it didnt change join the kara.

are you even capable of teaming with the *enemy* - if not then you are not adding anything to the community - by action or by word. I myself have attacked and defended Kami OP´s

been there, done that. i actually cant effectively team with them anymore because due to cats their level is way way higher than mine.

viperblood you speak of agreements etc but you hardly take a tone that makes us want to work with you, any kara is called greedy, any idea shot down etc

you wonder why ppl dont engage

(yes I'm no angel)

- well today i offered to use my alt for hosting events on the ring as a dedicated host. thats 15 dollars a month right there.
- ive approached 2 kara guilds about doing kami / kara player events. had a random convo with a 3rd. working on ryzom ring scenarios.

- and your right i do think its greedy to control 7/8th of resource. if it was the kami id say the same thing.


oh and on the kami guild attacking us multiple times. id take their op and give it to another kami guild that was playing nice. obviouslly as long as it kept the op numbers ballanced.

[dakhound]

oh and on the kami guild attacking us multiple times. id take their op and give it to another kami guild that was playing nice. obviouslly as long as it kept the op numbers ballanced.

sooo if we took say nexus OP and gave it to TPM?

[skifryan]

I like that idea, Jacko