raynes wrote:Things are different now, then they were in the spring of 2005. It got to the point where I had players accusing me of bullying up on their kids. I had people scream at me that I had no right to attack players in the roots. I had people yelling that my RP wasn't welcomed. While there were some that understood my rp and what I was doing. There were far more who took Raynes the Zorai saying "kill the karavan scum" and Raynes the player saying "kill the people who play karavan characters". It got to the point where RP died because there were so many people who were just against it (or only interested in friendly rp).
There's a fine line between RP and 'being an ass under the cover of RP'. One cannot be any more selfish in pure RP actions than one should be in PvP actions. True, its much harder to impose RP and much easier to disrupt it, but constantly sounding off in region or massacring people in the roots isn't going to make you any chums.
You'll be happy, I'm sure, to know that the extremist vision is now much more prevalent. If still pretty much as illogical and counter to the lore-that-was.
raynes wrote:Look my entire point in this thread was that there are many people who think this game was meant to be one where everyone works together and get along. That is not true. The game was always meant to have some form of PvP and it was always meant to be a central part of gameplay. People are asking why I can't accept the game the way it is. I can. The issue is that there are many who can not, and insist and turning the game from one about conflict to one about helping each other.
PvP might indeed have been intended to be part of it but as presented then, as sold then, as described then, as the lore showed then, conflict didn't make any sense at all and working together and rebuilding, learning from the lessons of the past did. Things like the Force of Fraternity, the cross-race refugee camps in the roots and everything else contra-indicated fanaticism and conflict.
Then there were all the cooperative events and the strong, powerful RP community that developed. The reaction against your RP may well have been as much RP as your portrayal, but you got in a tizz about it. What made your RP more valid than theirs?
The problem is that PvP, despite the protestations to the contrary on the front page, isn't fully consensual. So long as it is linked to exclusive content and bonuses, relevent outside PvP, it isn't fully consensual. It is, and was, imposed.
Another selling point of the game was that we'd be able to shape how things developed. That was ridden over roughshod. We've had a few elements of that since, but its been much shallower than what was presented.
